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10-19-2020 , 03:26 PM

munki

stranger

Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 1

Hey all,

I think this should be a pretty basic spot, but i'm kind of confused.
I think I made an error here with calling the 3bet and am now leaning towards folding.

I don't really have stats or reads on BB (VP 11 / PR 0 / 3B 0 @ 9Hands)

PokerStars - Mini Daily Marathon ($5.50)
75/150 Ante 15 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+2: 33.33 BB
CO: 77.73 BB
BTN: 63.54 BB
SB: 77.31 BB
BB: 33.85 BB
UTG: 13.61 BB
UTG+1: 25.77 BB
MP: 28.49 BB
Hero (MP+1): 33.57 BB

9 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has J

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 7 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

Flop: (15.4 BB, 2 players) Q

BB bets 6.93 BB, Hero calls 6.93 BB

Turn: (29.27 BB, 2 players) 5

BB bets 19.81 BB and is all-in, fold

BB wins 29.27 BB

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Would you call here preflop and if so would you also call the C-Bet?

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10-19-2020 , 05:46 PM

Lateral

enthusiast

Join Date: Feb 2020 Posts: 66

I would fold PF. Definitely a fold on the flop given the action. I would only ever expect TT+/AQs+ and if they are balanced then a few bluffs. Don't think we can ever call the cbet on that flop.

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10-19-2020 , 07:42 PM

WHO_RUNIT

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 422

I'd call the pf raise, fold to flop bet. If you all were playing much deeper you may be able to call the flop bet.

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10-19-2020 , 07:43 PM

insomnia666

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 225

I think vs unknown call can't be a big mistake. I will call with ATs and KQs. Very borderline decision with AJo.

OTF easy fold...You maybe call, because the BD FD. But this is a very small factor. Imo...Just fold...

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10-19-2020 , 11:55 PM

killer_kill

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 28,610

I'd fold preflop. I don't mind the flop float with a lot of backdoor playability.

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10-20-2020 , 06:06 AM

Panny1

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,548

Yeah pf is just a fold against a random, 3-b-ranges from BB vs MP are just way too tight overall and our hand doesn't play that well

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10-23-2020 , 04:38 PM

1-800-522-4700

stranger

Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 9

Considering it's BB vs MP, I'd rather pick a combo with a little more equity to float with here (pending any reads). We have backdoor equity but it's going to be incredibly difficult to realize that equity because of the SPR

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10-23-2020 , 08:54 PM

killer_kill

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 28,610

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Originally Posted by 1-800-522-4700

We're not really trying to realize it so much. I could've phrased it better. We want to be able to bluff on different runouts and solvers love to have you float when you can barrel a lot of turns and esp when you can bluff the nuts on the turn and river.

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10-24-2020 , 09:05 PM

Callinigrad

stranger

Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 5

The worst hand I would 3 bet as a BB vs the MP is AQs so he most likely had you outperformed at the flop with JJ+ or AQs, so easy fold post flop. Wouldn’t fold IP to the 3bet tho. Depending on the villain, against a decent tight player I would most likely fold in this position. But you basically don’t have any information, so treat him as a decent player

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10-24-2020 , 10:43 PM

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Colin_Piddle

The Colonial

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 11,808

^You need to widen your 3 betting range, even from the bb. Your not going to beat mtts above the micros playing that tight. As played its a fold pre.

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