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03-14-2018 , 05:25 PM
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tucanroman
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Hello 2+2, I need to understand when is ok to make this move and why.

I did it because: 1 or 2 minutes for blinds to go next level and I am tryng not to get short stacked every sng near the bubble. + villain was LAG


    Poker Stars, $0.91 Buy-in (25/50 blinds, 6 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37932389

    SB: 1,974 (39.5 bb)
    BB: 1,663 (33.3 bb)
    MP1: 862 (17.2 bb)
    MP2: 916 (18.3 bb)
    MP3: 2,897 (57.9 bb)
    CO: 1,478 (29.6 bb)
    Hero (BTN): 1,228 (24.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with A T
    4 folds, Hero raises to 125, SB calls 100, BB calls 75

    Flop: (417) J 6 8 (3 players)
    SB bets 209, BB folds, Hero raises to 1,097 and is all-in, SB calls 888

    Turn: (2,611) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: (2,611) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 2,611 pot
    Final Board: J 6 8 6 2
    SB showed J Q and lost (-1,228 net)
    BB mucked and lost (-131 net)
    Hero showed A T and won 2,611 (1,383 net)



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    03-14-2018 , 05:30 PM
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    HawkesDave
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    adept
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    Standard play.

    Lots of equity even vs a range that includes some 2p hands? Check.
    Lots of fold equity vs SB range? Check.
    Short stacked? Check.

    Nothing you could have done differently here.
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    03-14-2018 , 07:31 PM
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    Yup, standard
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    03-15-2018 , 12:19 AM
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    What about this one?


      Poker Stars, $0.91 Buy-in (60/120 blinds, 15 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37932393

      Hero (BB): 1,296 (10.8 bb)
      UTG+1: 1,882 (15.7 bb)
      UTG+2: 1,247 (10.4 bb)
      MP1: 2,309 (19.2 bb)
      MP2: 5,015 (41.8 bb)
      MP3: 2,006 (16.7 bb)
      CO: 1,515 (12.6 bb)
      BTN: 14,589 (121.6 bb)
      SB: 7,115 (59.3 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with K 2
      6 folds, BTN calls 120, SB completes, Hero checks

      Flop: (495) 6 8 T (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets 1,161 and is all-in, BTN calls 1,161, SB folds

      Turn: (2,817) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: (2,817) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: 2,817 pot
      Final Board: 6 8 T A 3
      Hero showed K 2 and lost (-1,296 net)
      BTN showed Q T and won 2,817 (1,521 net)
      SB mucked and lost (-135 net)



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      03-15-2018 , 06:52 AM
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      That one is a bit tougher. If the BTN was limping a lot it's a clear shove pre. If he hasn't been limping and he limps here, it could be because he's trying to induce you to shove. I'm likely shoving here regardless.

      As played, again, nothing wrong with a flop shove here. You want to be the one shoving, not waiting for action. You have a lot of equity here, too.
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      03-15-2018 , 10:14 AM
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      Darth_Maul
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      I wouldn't shove that hand only because BTN has a massive stack and may call you light to bust you with hands like marginal Aces and better Kings.

      Flop shove is fine but be prepared that you will get called in spots like that for 2 reasons: 1) what I said above; and 2) shoving that flop basically turns your hand over because it makes it pretty obvious you have a draw.
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      03-15-2018 , 04:36 PM
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      What about this one? if he shoved should I called?


        Poker Stars, $0.91 Buy-in (15/30 blinds, 4 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37932409

        UTG+2: 1,455 (48.5 bb)
        MP1: 3,957 (131.9 bb)
        MP2: 1,682 (56.1 bb)
        Hero (MP3): 2,901 (96.7 bb)
        CO: 989 (33 bb)
        BTN: 1,468 (48.9 bb)
        SB: 939 (31.3 bb)
        BB: 782 (26.1 bb)
        UTG+1: 2,030 (67.7 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J 8
        4 folds, Hero raises to 90, 3 folds, BB calls 60

        Flop: (231) A 4 3 (2 players)
        BB checks, Hero bets 90, BB folds

        Spoiler:
        Results: 231 pot
        Final Board: A 4 3
        Hero mucked J 8 and won 231 (137 net)
        BB mucked and lost (-94 net)



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        03-15-2018 , 05:13 PM
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        No, if he shoves that's a fold.

        Even if he's on a draw, it's probably something like K5 or K2 which has you totally crushed.

        Even if he check-raises you to 3x, it's generally a fold, since you're unlikely to realize your implied odds even if you do hit the flush on the turn with him being short stacked. This is a bet/fold situation.
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        03-16-2018 , 05:50 PM
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        Hands 1/2 seem fine. Hand 3 is a fold pre but flop bet is good.
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        03-16-2018 , 10:16 PM
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        Hand 3 is me tryng to play looser because of the bigstack. I tend to be a nit. I went too far? I raise a hand like that 1 of 5 o 6 times when I have a big stack from MP. BTN I do it 100% if I don't feel I will get a 3b

        I feel like when you have chips, the way to keep them high is founding spots where villains have TPTK or 2Pairs and you suck them with better hands.
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