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8.8$ Sat for 55$, what to do with QJo on Bubble? 8.8$ Sat for 55$, what to do with QJo on Bubble?

11-16-2018 , 05:52 AM
Hey!

I think this is a very close spot, so I'd like to hear your thoughts about it. 3 pl get the ticket.
The Question is simple: Shove or fold?

888 Poker - 400/800 Ante 80 NL - Holdem - 4 players

BB: 32.01 BB (VPIP: 21.21, PFR: 17.04, 3Bet Preflop: 8.23, Hands: 517)
CO: 8.62 BB (VPIP: 22.68, PFR: 17.20, 3Bet Preflop: 6.96, Hands: 374)
Hero (BTN): 9.66 BB
SB: 13.46 BB (VPIP: 24.14, PFR: 20.03, 3Bet Preflop: 8.56, Hands: 653)

4 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.9 BB) Hero has Q J

fold, [color=red]Hero?
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11-16-2018 , 06:51 AM
I’d shove if blinds are icm aware. Snapfold if you think they’d call too light. Has 4th place any value?
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11-16-2018 , 11:36 AM
no value at all, and the thing that concerned me, is that the bigstack can call and still surely get a ticket if he looses.
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11-16-2018 , 04:08 PM
Yes that is indeed a concern but at the same time, he doesn’t really have an incentive to call light since he is anyway getting the ticket for sure if he folds.
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11-16-2018 , 04:58 PM
You really shouldn’t rely on others for a spot like this as it's much better to calculate it with ICM tool yourself. That being said I’d imagine it’s quite close and you probably want to jam vs ICM aware players and fold vs others but again use an ICM tool.
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11-17-2018 , 03:45 AM
Hi, ran some number for you.

This is your shoving range
When ran as a turbo tournament: http://icmpoker.com/screenshot/DgmyZJ/

QJo is a fold
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11-17-2018 , 11:06 AM
Thanks for clarifying this.

Felt like the bottom of shoving range but its actually at the top of folding range.
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