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8.5bbs Q9s , shove? Deep in 54.50$ sunday mil

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10-05-2020 , 06:40 PM

Joe-exotic69

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117/ 26719 left

Prize jump at 107 from 900$ to 1.3k
134k up top

I just doubled to 8.5bbs (im still bottom 112/117)and get Q9s utg+2
Shove or wait for better spot? Nash says its a shove but im not 100% convinced its the right shove at this point of the tourney.

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10-05-2020 , 06:58 PM

Captain-Hindsight

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I would think this is still a jam.

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10-06-2020 , 03:25 AM

oldgoat

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I don't think we should tighten shoving ranges because its late in the tourney ( if anything open them up when in LP as people tend to tighten calling ranges ) I think its a mistake to be thinking of trying to make a pay jump - esp when we are waiting for nearly 10% of the field to go out.

nh ul

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10-06-2020 , 09:58 AM

Joey Fiuza

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Shove. You're aiming for the moon not the plane

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10-06-2020 , 01:50 PM

LiveMTTLover

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either double up to 17 bigs on this hand or wait and double up to 12 bigs and perhaps make a more guaranteed extra $400 just waiting a orbit or getting a better hand and doubling through it.

I think waiting is the better option at this stage. 5 BB increase isn't going to make a world of difference in you winning this tournament.

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10-06-2020 , 02:13 PM

insomnia666

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Fold...Tanking..Wait

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Depends on the stacks behind you...Close spot, this matters. Let's say some guy at MP with 25bb, he have KQs, what he will do!? $400 is coming...

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10-06-2020 , 02:37 PM

Joe-exotic69

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Originally Posted by insomnia666

Fold...Tanking..Wait

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Depends on the stacks behind you...Close spot, this matters. Let's say some guy at MP with 25bb, he have KQs, what he will do!? $400 is coming...

Stacks behind are between 10-35bbs
Sb and bb both have over 25bbs and have been opening a lot, not sure if they call light too though

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10-06-2020 , 02:56 PM

insomnia666

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Good then..For shove. I guess...

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10-06-2020 , 03:01 PM

stremba70

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Originally Posted by LiveMTTLover

You are making quite a few assumptions. You are assuming you’ll get a better hand in the next orbit. You are assuming that the pay jump will happen in the next orbit. You are assuming that you will actually double up if you get a better hand. Most importantly you are assuming that if you double up here, you’ll just sit on your 17bb stack. You’ll likely have opportunities to increase that stack, and a 17bb stack is better for such opportunities than a 12 bb stack.

Maybe if your only goal is to survive to get the pay jump, you fold. If your goal is to increase your stack and try to win the tourney, it’s a shove IMO.

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10-06-2020 , 03:25 PM

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insomnia666

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You need much better hand than Q9s in the next orbit...

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