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05-21-2018 , 12:01 PM
Should I call river here? And maybe just fold preflop?

PokerStars - 60/120 Ante 15 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 57.67 BB (VPIP: 35.29, PFR: 35.29, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 17)
BTN: 18.34 BB (VPIP: 14.14, PFR: 12.03, 3Bet Preflop: 7.45, Hands: 506)
SB: 22.56 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (BB): 25.42 BB
UTG: 16.05 BB (VPIP: 18.93, PFR: 11.31, 3Bet Preflop: 3.33, Hands: 172)
UTG+1: 10.54 BB (VPIP: 16.79, PFR: 13.85, 3Bet Preflop: 7.84, Hands: 132)
MP: 70.73 BB (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 21.67, 3Bet Preflop: 10.53, Hands: 64)
MP+1: 18.14 BB (VPIP: 25.87, PFR: 22.37, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 323)

8 players post ante of 0 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has 2 7

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (5 BB, 2 players) 4 7 Q
SB bets 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 7.92 BB, SB calls 5.42 BB

Turn: (20.83 BB, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (20.83 BB, 2 players) Q
SB bets 6 BB, fold

SB wins 20.83 BB
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05-22-2018 , 02:51 PM
Fold pre.

Mediocre pot odds for a BB defense spot and a hand that has few chances to flop big. You don't have to defend every BB.
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05-22-2018 , 07:48 PM
Is the call pre bad? Seeing he is in position + antes? If so whats the best suited hand u fold in that spot?
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05-23-2018 , 02:58 AM
would also fold pre - prob defend hands like 64s T6s J4s - but I guess it's not terrible

I really don't like the flop raise though - why are we doing this?
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05-23-2018 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by oldgoat
would also fold pre - prob defend hands like 64s T6s J4s - but I guess it's not terrible
I agree with this. I don't want to get into a blind battle over a small pot with a hand as bad as 72s.

Spot is very different if you have a minraise and a couple of callers in front, and you're getting fantastic odds multiway to defend.
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05-23-2018 , 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth_Maul
I agree with this. I don't want to get into a blind battle over a small pot with a hand as bad as 72s.

Spot is very different if you have a minraise and a couple of callers in front, and you're getting fantastic odds multiway to defend.
Against someone minraising bvb here I wouldn't fold a suited hand.

Would call flop and as played call river to this sizing.
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05-23-2018 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth_Maul
Fold pre.

Mediocre pot odds for a BB defense spot and a hand that has few chances to flop big. You don't have to defend every BB.
I agree that you should throw the hand.
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05-23-2018 , 03:05 PM
We have 25 blinds and people think we're gonna just be able to finesse our position that much. We should just fold pre, the whole value of it being suited is to be deeper and hit flushes potentially.
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05-24-2018 , 06:14 PM
Killer_kill would u fold 75s / 74s / 73s? Just curious where your line is regarding the preflop call . I assume you would defend 76s?
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05-25-2018 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by killer_kill
We should just fold pre, the whole value of it being suited is to be deeper and hit flushes potentially.
This is actually an important point I neglected to mention. With 25bb you should prefer to defend hands that are good in low SPR spots, like Kx/Qx/Jx. Little suited cards are only valuable in high SPR spots due to implied odds.
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05-25-2018 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Emanresu
Killer_kill would u fold 75s / 74s / 73s? Just curious where your line is regarding the preflop call . I assume you would defend 76s?
Bottom prob is 67s or somewhere near there. Would call 86s fold 95s prob.
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