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 Hold'em No Limit MTT - Should I have continued?  Hold'em No Limit MTT - Should I have continued?

11-11-2020 , 01:39 AM
I ended up folding as a cause of the turn bet size and bad card. Should I have x/c turn street and re-evaluate on the river?
Its GGPoker so no hud stats or previous history with this player.

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - 80/160 (20 ante) - 7 players on the table

UTG: 8,096 (51 bb)
MP: 10,523 (66 bb)
MP+1: 10,000 (63 bb)
CO: 10,135 (63 bb)
BU: 7,452 (47 bb)
SB: 13,640 (85 bb)
BB (Hero): 10,032 (63 bb)

Pre-Flop: (380) Hero is BB with 7 A
2 players fold, MP+1 raises to 400, 3 players fold, Hero calls 240

Flop: (1,020) A 3 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 510, Hero calls 510

Turn: (2,040) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 1,530, BB (Hero) folds

Total pot: 2,040
MP+1 wins 2,040
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11-11-2020 , 03:20 AM
You can prob c/r this flop sometimes (calling is fine too) but I'm unsure on the turn. What kid of opening range do you put on MP and maybe I can help more?
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11-11-2020 , 11:14 AM
No, more stats. I think Im going to install PT to grab the stats.
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11-11-2020 , 01:34 PM
If blinds were higher can maybe 3 bet pre sometimes as well. Flat is perfectly fine tho. As played no idea really and if he's a capable player its good board for him to tripple barrel you on.
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11-11-2020 , 03:44 PM
Thanks, PF decision isnt difficult. Im stuck on whether should I call or fold Turn. I assume its better to fold if we dont have stats on Villain.
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11-11-2020 , 09:20 PM
3 bet pre is bad IMO so many better hand to put in that range than A7o

I think default is to fold turn unfortunately. If you had some kind of lag read on villain I could be persuaded to call. Keep in mind tho, if we call turn I think we have to call all non diamond rivers
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11-11-2020 , 11:42 PM
10000 chips, was it their first hand in the MTT? Any player info/stats would be useful.

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Originally Posted by Captain-Hindsight
I think default is to fold turn unfortunately. If you had some kind of lag read on villain I could be persuaded to call.
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Originally Posted by ActionOnMe29
I assume its better to fold if we dont have stats on Villain.
Agreed.
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11-11-2020 , 11:55 PM
Yeah, I'm not a fan of 3b either. I'm torn on folding turn cause I feel like we just get dusted off a lot of double barrels if we just fold tp and it's hard to think of many better hands we have, but I'm willing to be way wrong about that.
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11-12-2020 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Raistlyn M
10000 chips, was it their first hand in the MTT? Any player info/stats would be useful.





Agreed.

If it was Villains first hand would that lean you towards calling the turn or away?


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11-12-2020 , 12:33 AM
I'm not gonna run a solver for every hand here but I bought GTO+ a few weeks ago so if you wanna give me villain's opening range (roughly) and what you'd defend I can check the turn spot quickly.
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11-12-2020 , 05:18 AM
I will fold as well...
Unpleasant card and size. As you said...

The check-raise...
First...On this street will be so "expensive". And it is weird, you have TP, straight possible on the board. No FD, no straight draw, no nothing, only a blocker...I don't like it. I think call is better, than check-raise. But I prefer fold...

The call pre is kinda borderline. Vs this size...

You can call OTT, you will have enough equity (in vacuum), but OTR you will have some "loss of equity". Vs some hands, bluffs. I mean actually you can't call any bet on heart or diamond...

Also you don't need to "defend" some frequency postflop. You call preflop is only for the pot odds. His range is too strong. This is a suicide. To think like that. For "defend postflop".

Last edited by insomnia666; 11-12-2020 at 05:48 AM.
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11-12-2020 , 08:08 AM
Solver won't allow villain to bet 50% but with a 33% size (which is what people should be betting mostly against you on this board) it says to basically call every Ax on the turn facing 33% flop, 66% turn bet (this is 75% but we can fold many worse hands for the 5% size difference).

This was the range I gave the opener.

AA-55,AKs-A9s,A5s,KQs-KTs,QJs-QTs,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,AKo-AJo,KQo-KJo,QJo,[50.0]A8s,A4s-A2s,K9s,Q9s,J9s,76s,ATo,KTo,QTo,JTo[/50.0]

We can remove some of the 50% stuff like QTo and JTo but it won't make much of a difference.
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11-16-2020 , 07:09 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys, its very appreciated.
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