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01-22-2021 , 01:34 AM

evan471

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Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 59

Yatahay Network - 1250/2500 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 33.99 BB
SB: 39.08 BB
BB: 50.56 BB
Hero (UTG): 21.76 BB
UTG+1: 15.14 BB
MP: 32.96 BB
MP+1: 53.83 BB
CO: 70.72 BB

8 players post ante of 0.12 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.46 BB) Hero has K

Hero raises to 2.1 BB, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 7.2 BB, fold, BTN raises to 12.3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 21.64 BB and is all-in, fold, BTN calls 9.34 BB

Flop: (52.93 BB, 2 players) 3

Turn: (52.93 BB, 2 players) 3

River: (52.93 BB, 2 players) Q

BTN shows A

(Two Pair, Aces and Threes)
(Pre 93%, Flop 87%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows K

(Two Pair, Kings and Threes)
(Pre 7%, Flop 13%, Turn 5%)
BTN wins 52.93 BB

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01-22-2021 , 02:30 AM

deuceblocker

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Don't show results, but I like a fold to the cold min 4-bet after you opened UTG. Does he really have something you are ahead of often?

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01-22-2021 , 02:45 AM

killer_kill

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The lower the buyin the more I'd be inclined to fold this hand. I don't think I can fold it not knowing the buyin tho on 22 bb tho.

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01-22-2021 , 11:29 AM

evan471

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intersting, why the lower the buy in? I thought the lower the buy in, the more a player might over value JJ-QQ here?

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01-22-2021 , 09:43 PM

killer_kill

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Cause at micro's people don't even 3b to start, let alone min-4b not being ultra nutted. I guess it's just such a weird niche spot anyways to wonder what to do vs a min-4b anyways but I get the question asked. Basically at lower stakes I tend to just give people credit for it usually. In hindsight and looking back I'm honestly not sure what to do. I'd prob change my answer to cry fold. It just is such a crappy spot to be in and nothing feels good.

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01-23-2021 , 07:44 AM

deuceblocker

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I assume this is $20 buyin or lower as it is posted in this forum. The cold min 4-bet is not a reg style play. It should often be AA/KK. AK just isn't good versus the 4-bet range, and you only have 2.1xBB invested, so I would let it go.

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01-23-2021 , 09:14 AM

rayfox111

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Your only approx 6% v AA and 30% v KK. They could also have AK of course, it depends what you have on villian, but as already been said if its a lowish buy in its usually AA or KK.

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01-23-2021 , 11:27 AM

killer_kill

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Originally Posted by deuceblocker

I mean there's still a pretty stark difference between 20's and a 5 dollar mtt tho kinda. It's also a new account and sometimes people put stuff in the wrong place is all.

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01-30-2021 , 09:14 PM

Andreas95

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These plays happen very rarely from Villan, and i dont think it's every anything worse than KK/AA/AK, rarely AK. I definately think folding is ok vs this line from Villain

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01-31-2021 , 03:39 AM

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Colin_Piddle

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Pretty player dependant spot. Vs any form of nit its an easy fold, vs a maniac its an easy get in.

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02-01-2021 , 08:21 PM

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Davesreiberg

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I like folding here but also agree not to show results. Also, don't be results oriented in these spots. Typically at micro stakes, people are not 4bet min clicking it back without the nuts because they are afraid a big raise will chase people away.

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