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05-16-2019 , 12:23 AM
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Don't use a HUD on the site so bear with me.

Blinds 400/800 Ante 80

Villain UTG: Raises to 1,760

Hero in SB: Q/Jo calls

Pot 4,400

Flop: 9h, Qd, 8d,

Hero: Check

Villain: Bet 1,452

Hero: Calls

Pot: 7,304

Turn 2s

Hero: Check

Villain: Bets 4,821

Hero: Calls

Pot: 16,946

River: Qc

Hero: Check

Villain: bets 8,473

Hero: Shoves 19,574

Pot: 56,094

Villain shows 9c,9s

Hero shows Qs, Jc

Check raise shove OTR a spew?
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05-16-2019 , 12:38 AM
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How many handed is it? If it 9max proly a fold to utg raise pre
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05-16-2019 , 01:03 AM
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Quote:
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How many handed is it? If it 9max proly a fold to utg raise pre
Apologies forget to mention it was a 6max tournament.
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05-16-2019 , 01:14 AM
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Seeing we readless without a HUD I don't mind a fold pre 6m 30bb with V covering and start calling KJs+ or so. Population I find still open fairly narrow from this seat
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05-16-2019 , 07:21 AM
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You have no business x/j riv, or flatting pre.
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05-16-2019 , 10:54 AM
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Stack sizes are kind of important, and I'm not going to take the time to add them up myself.
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05-16-2019 , 04:55 PM
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Stack sizes are kind of important, and I'm not going to take the time to add them up myself.
Trying to think back on the hand I want to say I started 32BB and Villain was roughly 40BB +
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05-16-2019 , 08:59 PM
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3 bet pre or fold. Villian still has all the top of his value range here, calling river is preferable. I think overpairs would check river and a lot of bluffs.
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05-17-2019 , 12:19 PM
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Trying to think back on the hand I want to say I started 32BB and Villain was roughly 40BB +
Although it doesn't really matter, facing an early open QJo is an easy fold in the SB. Too much risk of being dominated by JJ-AA/AJ/AQ/KQ.
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05-23-2019 , 04:19 AM
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Call from sb vs utg with QJo only with other call behind you need ~20% equity and can released your equity easier and cheaper than heads up ..As played imo call.
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05-23-2019 , 02:44 PM
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As played I don't think you can get get called by worse check raising this river. QT is maybe the only hand he can have here that he calls with that you beat.
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05-23-2019 , 09:37 PM
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Fold pre
As played , flat call river. Raising only will be calling better hands.
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05-25-2019 , 12:49 PM
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Fold pre, call river.
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05-25-2019 , 01:02 PM
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Small blind this is a fold vs UTG. QJs maybe a 3bet if you have a tight image and haven't been getting out of line.

Turn bet is 60% of the pot. He is repping AQ, KK+, all the sets.

You can't fold on the river and can't raise. You are still in the tourney if you are beat and nothing worse calls you.

Classic snowball effect.
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05-25-2019 , 10:59 PM
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+1 to fold pre and call river, 3b'ing pre is a option, would need dynamics vs an UTG open I feel like, you never get called by worse raising river
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05-26-2019 , 07:21 PM
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I would preflop only if it were suited

On the river i'm just calling because you cant get called by worse all that often
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