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06-08-2020 , 02:03 PM

LaloSalamanca

newbie

Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 43

We try to iso the shortstack and end up with 2 callers

Considering the SPR should we be shoving the flop regardless of villains and our position?

PokerStars, $4.90 + $0.60 - Hold'em No Limit - 60/120 (15 ante) - 8 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: 13,176 (110 bb)
UTG+1: 843 (7 bb)
MP (Hero): 8,166 (68 bb)
MP+1: 7,048 (59 bb)
CO: 18,046 (150 bb)
BU: 9,226 (77 bb)
SB: 13,553 (113 bb)
BB: 11,549 (96 bb)

Pre-Flop: (300) Hero is MP with A♠ K♦
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to 828 (all-in), Hero 3-bets to 2,160, 2 players fold, BTN calls 2,160, 1 fold, BB calls 2,040

Flop: (7,488) J♥ J♠ Q♣ (4 players, 1 all-in)

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06-08-2020 , 03:26 PM

Colin_Piddle

The Colonial

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 11,808

3 bet sizing looks too small id make it at least 3000. Shoving the flop would be atrocious. Obv checking flop and hoping to see a free turn.

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06-08-2020 , 03:42 PM

Darth_Maul

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,435

I think the 3b sizing is fine given the initial shove was about 7bb. Your 3b is about 18bb so the two flat callers set off huge alarm bells. Shoving the flop would be suicide - you're basically hoping they're both calling pre with hands like TT/99.

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06-08-2020 , 03:56 PM

LaloSalamanca

newbie

Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 43

I did follow the correct line post flop but wasn't 100% on it considering I only had 6006 chips left in a 7488 pot

PokerStars, $4.90 + $0.60 - Hold'em No Limit - 60/120 (15 ante) - 8 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: 13,176 (110 bb)
UTG+1: 843 (7 bb)
MP (Hero): 8,166 (68 bb)
MP+1: 7,048 (59 bb)
CO: 18,046 (150 bb)
BU: 9,226 (77 bb)
SB: 13,553 (113 bb)
BB: 11,549 (96 bb)

Pre-Flop: (300) Hero is MP with A♠ K♦
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to 828 (all-in), Hero 3-bets to 2,160, 2 players fold, BTN calls 2,160, 1 fold, BB calls 2,040

Flop: (7,488) J♥ J♠ Q♣ (4 players, 1 all-in)
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (7,488) 8♠ (4 players, 1 all-in)
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 3,744, BB calls 3,744, MP (Hero) folds

River: (14,976) K♣ (3 players, 1 all-in)
BB bets 5,630 (all-in), BU folds

Total pot: 14,976

Showdown:
BB shows T♦ A♣ (a straight, Ten to Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 61%, Flop: 83%, Turn: 73%, River: 100%)

UTG+1 shows K♠ 7♠ (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 39%, Flop: 17%, Turn: 27%, River: 0%)

BB wins 14,976

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06-09-2020 , 02:51 AM

killer_kill

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 28,610

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Originally Posted by Colin_Piddle

3 bet sizing looks too small id make it at least 3000. Shoving the flop would be atrocious. Obv checking flop and hoping to see a free turn.

That's 25 blind preflop raise...we can't literally just click it back to isolate to around 13 blinds anyways.

Why is shoving flop atrocious? You think they have AJs/AQo? We can have JJJJ/QQQ and AQs/KK/AA as well.

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06-09-2020 , 08:30 AM

Captain-Hindsight

adept

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 1,114

tbh I don't even think I'd raise pre here.

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06-09-2020 , 10:11 AM

Darth_Maul

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,435

ATo and K7s...this is why we can make money playing tournaments.

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