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4 handed ICM spot, how to aproch these spots 4 handed ICM spot, how to aproch these spots

11-14-2018 , 09:14 AM
Hello guys, this is 4 handed spot of winamx tournament final table, payouts are

1.624
2.445
3.318
4.227

https://gyazo.com/edceefaecc32d3e9475651b24d14af04 and I got this spot, and holdemresources even if we put pretty wide range(even too wide) shows clear fold https://gyazo.com/b726003c00e16b72841eff7f342eff32 . And I asked few players they say just take that spot and thats it. What is your opinion? And how you aproach these spots?
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11-14-2018 , 09:46 AM
more info on villain?
I consider villain would just minraise or flat with real monster hands (QQ-AA), so yeah i would just take the spot, which also makes you capable of punish other 2 smaller stacks if you will win it, which highly improves your chance to go for 1st
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11-14-2018 , 09:56 AM
Even if we take out AA-JJ/AK its slightly minus https://gyazo.com/56cada15be9f00ee0ab390cffc341eae so we just take in this spot even slightly - ev spots like AQo for future game? And we fold hands with bigger - like 88/AJs?
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11-14-2018 , 10:15 AM
Hi, that's the excellent question! Could you please send the hand in the raw format to make it more convenient to insert into ICM calculators?

As for how to approach spots like this - i am usually trying to apply the common sense here, tell a story, f.e.:
hero is on 4th place but currently has almost as many chips as the 3rd on CO
the 2nd on BB has ~25% more chips
BTN is a huge CP and he is within his right to abuse SB and BB by shoving any two cards
hero doesn't want to play against BTN because if hero gets busted then then CO guarantees the 3rd place without any efforts.
Also, hero is interested to let BB call and take his chances because if BB loses, hero guarantees the 3rd place and will fight for the 2nd.
Hence, the calling range should be very, very narrow here. HRC might tell you that AQo is fold and that's all right.

Last edited by ffsh; 11-14-2018 at 10:32 AM.
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11-15-2018 , 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by zhukaSS
more info on villain?
I consider villain would just minraise or flat with real monster hands (QQ-AA), so yeah i would just take the spot, which also makes you capable of punish other 2 smaller stacks if you will win it, which highly improves your chance to go for 1st
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