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3 hands vs same villain in stars .50 3 hands vs same villain in stars .50

02-19-2019 , 09:30 AM
This is the first hand(s) I've posted for a long time on here, if ever, but I'm back on the MTT grind on Stars and was interested in feedback please.

Final table of Stars $5.50 Deep against the same villain.

He's relatively solid for these stakes, maybe a little too aggressive pre and in certain spots post, and is definitely capable of making moves, but not crazy out of line as far as I know. sorry, no pokertracker or stats or anything.

HAND 1

6-handed

Villain HJ 2,800,683
Hero BB 2,825,981

Blinds 35k/70k

folds to villain, raise to 140,000
folds to hero (T3hh) call BB

Flop: Js 8d Jc

Check, villain bet 124,950, I call

Turn: 5c

check check

River: Qh

Hero bets 290,000

HAND 2

3-handed

BTN 5,110,952
Hero SB 4,755,814
Villain BB 5,243,234

Blinds 50k/100k

BTN raise to 200,000, I call (Ah7h), Villain calls

Flop Ad 2c Td

I check, Villain checks, BTN bets 210,375, I call, Villain raises to 850,000, I fold

HAND 3

For this next one, I've been limping in the SB a lot as villain has been 3 betting opens a fair amount to a larger than normal sizing (4x+) so I limp a lot of hands and plan to mix in some strong hands for balance. How thin do you call down?

3-handed

Hero SB 4,926,689
Villain BB 5,982,734

Blinds 50k/100k

I limp in the SB (XX), BB checks

Flop 3d 7d 3c

I check, Villain bets 100,000, I call

Turn 9c

I check, Villain bets 150,000, I call

River: Ts

I check, Villain bets 950,000, I call
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02-19-2019 , 11:34 AM
Hand 1 I fold flop, we don't have a BDFD and don't have a lot of high card strength either. I think we can get away with defending this spot less than you might think, basically villain gives you an amazing price PF, you call trying to flop something interesting, then can let go when you don't. This also seems like a fairly good flop for villains range as he can have all the big pairs and Js are probably overrepresented in his range compared to yours. As played, like the river bet, at the bottom of your range and can certainly rep some Js.

Hand 2 seems fine. One thing I've been thinking about a lot recently is that if we want to fold hands like A7 here (I think we should) we also need to slowplay a bunch of big hands.

Hand 3 is tricky. I assume it's rare we should play trips this passively (like I'm sure Pio says we play a mixed strategy but I bet we're weighted heavily toward raising the flop or turn on this texture), so our range is kind of capped. It's also not clear how often were supposed to get to the river holding a T. Also I'm betting a 7 pretty much every time on the flop so I'm not worried about holding those. At work right now so instead of running the ranges I'll just hazard a guess that we call every time we have a 9 or better.
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02-19-2019 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeC2012
Hand 1 I fold flop, we don't have a BDFD and don't have a lot of high card strength either. I think we can get away with defending this spot less than you might think, basically villain gives you an amazing price PF, you call trying to flop something interesting, then can let go when you don't. This also seems like a fairly good flop for villains range as he can have all the big pairs and Js are probably overrepresented in his range compared to yours. As played, like the river bet, at the bottom of your range and can certainly rep some Js.

Hand 2 seems fine. One thing I've been thinking about a lot recently is that if we want to fold hands like A7 here (I think we should) we also need to slowplay a bunch of big hands.

Hand 3 is tricky. I assume it's rare we should play trips this passively (like I'm sure Pio says we play a mixed strategy but I bet we're weighted heavily toward raising the flop or turn on this texture), so our range is kind of capped. It's also not clear how often were supposed to get to the river holding a T. Also I'm betting a 7 pretty much every time on the flop so I'm not worried about holding those. At work right now so instead of running the ranges I'll just hazard a guess that we call every time we have a 9 or better.


For hand 1 obv I'm folding the flop 99 per cent of the time but I felt like experimenting, counting on check check and as it runs out I think I can fold out a lot of Ax, the few combos of Kx and some pairs. Maybe he gets to the river with too many Qs for it to work though?

Would be interested in hearing any more views on hand 2, is anyone in his spot really doing this with a fd with this exact action??? I also should 3bet this hand pre as the opener was playing pretty straightforwardly to 3bets particularly from oop.

Yeah the thing about hand 3 is that bearing in mind the overwhelming amount of crap in his range what are we getting value from? I feel given how weak my range is he has to betting that flop a lot so I have to turn a lot of what I have into bluffcatchers then it's a case of working out the right runouts to call down.

The backdoor fd bricked is another consideration, as well as at the time I considered him to be pretty polarised (and this was confirmed a few hands later)

Last edited by SandraXII; 02-19-2019 at 12:02 PM.
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02-19-2019 , 12:23 PM
And for sure I'm c/r if I have a 3 with two fds out there but I just have a 3 so rarely.
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02-20-2019 , 04:54 PM
1- Have at least a backdoor FD to float oop.

2- I feel like the A7s in the SB plays quite better as a 3-bet pre.

3- He's repping a polarized range (his sizing river is a little bit ridiculous) with 45/56/46/some random turned FD and 3x/(maybe random Tx ? not sure given the river sizing) as value so I can see myself hero call A high or fold JJ. Timing tells, read on his sizings, perceived range (not the same if he knows you limp AA), perceived willingness to make big folds river etc... is important.
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02-20-2019 , 05:29 PM
I agree with all of that except what do you mean fold JJ???
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02-20-2019 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SandraXII
I agree with all of that except what do you mean fold JJ???
Well, if V is a huge nit and never went for a big bluff river in his entire life he should have 3x pretty much everytime. In the real world seems near impossible to have such a precise strong read on someone but it could happen.
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02-21-2019 , 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by xamlop
Well, if V is a huge nit and never went for a big bluff river in his entire life he should have 3x pretty much everytime. In the real world seems near impossible to have such a precise strong read on someone but it could happen.
Ah right I thought you meant you might call A hi but fold JJ as part of the same strategy which wouldn't make too much sense

I think once the backdoor misses most villains should probably expect a lot of calldowns in a lot of spots since I am so underrepped. If villain thinks we aren't limping strong hands pre for balance, (which I'm very sure was what he thought here) it makes it kind of mandatory to Vbet any 8 for two more streets, and a T if he gets there with Txcc or something, and take me to value town. (although he checked back QQ on a safe river several hands later so he almost certainly would not have done this, making it even more of a clear call with my K7, although I'll occasionally get owned by J8, 86 or obv any 3).

Last edited by SandraXII; 02-21-2019 at 05:13 AM.
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02-21-2019 , 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SandraXII
Ah right I thought you meant you might call A hi but fold JJ as part of the same strategy which wouldn't make too much sense

I think once the backdoor misses most villains should probably expect a lot of calldowns in a lot of spots since I am so underrepped. If villain thinks we aren't limping strong hands pre for balance, (which I'm very sure was what he thought here) it makes it kind of mandatory to Vbet any 8 for two more streets, and a T if he gets there with Txcc or something, and take me to value town. (although he checked back QQ on a safe river several hands later so he almost certainly would not have done this, making it even more of a clear call with my K7, although I'll occasionally get owned by J8, 86 or obv any 3).
He had 6 high ?
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02-21-2019 , 10:16 AM
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