partypoker - 650/1300 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 89.15 BB (VPIP: 9.38, PFR: 6.12, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 169)
CO: 97.29 BB (VPIP: 38.24, PFR: 29.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
Hero (BTN): 89.43 BB
SB: 69.16 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
BB: 92.33 BB (VPIP: 18.80, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 4.26, Hands: 118)
UTG: 132.14 BB (VPIP: 21.92, PFR: 15.59, 3Bet Preflop: 8.44, Hands: 524)
UTG+1: 54.7 BB (VPIP: 22.86, PFR: 8.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
MP: 68.12 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)

8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.52 BB) Hero has K 4

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (6.52 BB, 2 players) K T 4
BB checks, Hero bets 3.5 BB, BB raises to 12.96 BB, Hero raises to 31.5 BB, BB raises to 89.7 BB and is all-in, Hero ???

i think it would be better to just call x/r and play for pot control
What do you think?

Well there is no way we folding now after the 3b goes in, call and hope to run good, we block KT and 44 and TT 3bs pre, this is mostly combo draws.

Being so deep its weird and makes me want pot control flop, but then again its sort of w/e, hes guna show up with nut flush draws and open enders a lot, also he might fast play a K because there is so many draws on board.

i like ur flop 4 bet - if u just flat bb's 3 bet ur 2 pair will shrink up on a lot of turn - villain can have a lot of worse value hands and have a lot of draws so just look to get it in

Why you mess around with K4?
there is a misunderstanding today that we open all hands today from BTN.
Never for a crap?

Its because this is the most profitable seat on the table, it makes sense to widen your opening range if you confident postflop, this is fairly std open on most tables

you arent counting bets correctly. hero 3bet and villain 4bet. the reason its one less pre is because the bb counts as a "bet"

obv i called and he showed KT . so i post this hand to see what do you think? Fast play it or play for pot control given we are 90bb deep eff would be better play on population?

Interesting. Thanks for the clarification.

There's no need to play pot control, your hand is very strong in this spot. The only hand you're in bad shape against is TT. Villain can have a whole lot of other stuff in his range that you're beating, such as draws and combo hands. So I'm happily getting it in here. Sometimes you just run into better hands.

Can't really fold after you make that flop raise often you'll be up against draws and just a K, unfortunate if you were beat however raising with a hand as weak as K4 can sometimes get you in tough spots more often than you think as it's more likely to be the 2nd best hand.