I've been seeing this min 3 bet more and more, IMO its slightly weighted to pocket pairs but I dont have a good handle on the pots because they seem to rarely go to SD

this hand was played a few weeks ago, I had V tagged as a rec player and a note that he has made a PSB otf, nothing about the min 3!

my bounty was worth about $80 total or 2 buyins for the KO

3500/7000/700, 6 handed game, something between 50-100 players left

UTG 20bb folds
Hero 64bb raises to 2.2bb w QJ
fold
V 80bb raises to 3.4bb
fold
fold
hero calls 1.2bb

flop 9bb
38Q
check,
V bets 9bb
hero calls

turn 27bb 9
check
V bets 11 bb
hero calls

river 49bb 5
check (40bb behind)
V bets 18bb
Hero calls

Easiest preflop fold ever to a 3bet from a rec player, fold pre from that position imo.

fold QJo pre, in 6max! deep! from the HJ! ITM! in a PKO! sorry but if you needed any more reasons to open up your range I don't think there are any lol

is it that easy of a fold pre? we have 6.5:1 on our call and even if he has AA we have odds to call (if we realize 100% of our EQ which vs a rec its like ~70) throw a couple small pp, suited connectors, a miss click, in the mix and it should be a slam dunk call, or make a small 4 bet which i don't think is too bad either

This min 3! has been a bit of a trend especially in the mid stakes, I call it the fish weapon vs the reg cuz it works! min 3bet/cbet is printing money vs people who chalk it up to AA every time and fold. tbh sometimes I wonder why I don't add it to my arsenal

ill add because it probably wasn't clear we cover everyone but V

I think we just go call call call here and nh if he has it.

Do you actually fold vs min 3bets getting 10 to 1 ?

Postflop is super gross, he's repping KK+ way too credibly, I really want to fold on each street but I guess we sort of have to call flop/turn, river might be the street where we wonder what sort of bluff we can realistically catch because sure feels like we're on a journey to value town.

lol Sorry, I misread the hand, thought it was a 9 player table. You guys are so nice about it.

I probably take exactly the same line

does anyone have thoughts on 4 bet pre?

your post got me so tilted lol

4b pre is player dependent and image. Wouldn't do it as a default. Most often not.

I hate calling the river.

Why villian can have a ton of stuff that doesn't include the King or Ace of hearts?

Uumm me, i fold river

I am the forum´s novice so i ask...shoudn´t be villain checkind behind his SDV hands like overpairs or even sets and lesser flushes (Th X)?

So what is he betting? i dont see any bluffs here, only some [Ah X] or [Kh X]

I'm not sure a rec player is betting here with a wide range. I guess it depends on what kind of rec player he is? I'm not folding of course but I just usually see recs shut down here a lot... but th that's live observation though.

Just to round this post off I'll post a spoiler

The only reason I take the same line is because of the bet sizing. He drops from pot on the flop to less than half pot on turn and river. This looks to me like a protection bet on the flop that got a bit scared by the runout.

I think this is always just a call. I don’t think you should get fancy with such a bad hand when you’re this deep. You could always go ahead and 4bet with something like K10s or even something like A9s as these hands has better playability if called and has the added bonus of the blocker effect which is kind when nice he’s trying to rep KK+.

fine play. you should be opening QJ, KJo utg at a small frequency 9 handed regardless, and KTo,QTo, JTo most of the time from LJ... anyways this is just a fine play, never folding any street especially vs a rec. as for 4betting pre probably only going to have value vs a rec, unless they are over 3bet - folding then id 4bet quite a bit but id need reads ofcourse

open is player dependent. can definitely be a fold sometimes, especially if you have couple aggressive players behind, but dont mind an open. as played, definitely calling 3bet. these min 3bets are usually heavy towards 66-TT/KQ/Aj/AT, basically hands that benefit from isolating and playing HU - you`ll see nutted hands sometime but not as often imho. postflop, also player dependent, sometimes I call all the way, sometimes I even fold on the flop. try to build his range and see what range does he come to the river with, from first sigh it look like even some possible bluffs with Kh/Ah got there