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22 bounty calling range.. is this ok? 22 bounty calling range.. is this ok?

10-21-2018 , 04:56 PM
PokerStars - 600/1200 Ante 150 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG+1): 84.98 BB
MP: 95.11 BB (VPIP: 44.83, PFR: 20.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
MP+1: 56.6 BB (VPIP: 17.24, PFR: 13.79, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 29)
MP+2: 33.68 BB (VPIP: 27.59, PFR: 13.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
CO: 45.45 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 16.00, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 25)
BTN: 62.45 BB (VPIP: 3.45, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
SB: 41.53 BB (VPIP: 24.14, PFR: 17.24, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 29)
BB: 18.44 BB (VPIP: 4.17, PFR: 4.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
UTG: 27.69 BB (VPIP: 20.69, PFR: 13.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)

9 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.62 BB) Hero has A T

fold, Hero raises to 2.09 BB, fold, fold, MP+2 calls 2.09 BB, CO calls 2.09 BB, fold, SB calls 1.59 BB, BB raises to 18.31 BB and is all-in, Hero raises to 84.85 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold
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10-21-2018 , 08:22 PM
What range do u assign for BB??
He isn't pushing any weaker ace , and pocket pair 88+ ( if he is going nuts...)
It's a small sample but he seems nitty, with hands with implied odds he is completing the BB.
AP super easy fold.

Next time fold pre
My range for BB here is AQs+ AK and TT+
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10-21-2018 , 10:27 PM
Fold pre.

Villains range could be as tight as AQ JJ .... I mean he's tight to begin with and now he is facing an early open and two callers ... he's probably looking for a call since people call off so lightly in bounties.
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10-22-2018 , 02:36 AM
probably it's not that bad to reshove here because there are dead money on the table + bounty.
OP, what was the bounty size of BB?
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10-22-2018 , 08:38 PM
Depends on the size of the bounty, if its small - med then fold. If its big then I don't mind it too much.. id def call ATs
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10-23-2018 , 08:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Underpairs
Fold pre.

Villains range could be as tight as AQ JJ .... I mean he's tight to begin with and now he is facing an early open and two callers ... he's probably looking for a call since people call off so lightly in bounties.
agree on this range and without bounty it is an easy fold.
bounty was the size of the tourney buy in.

but how do you fold pre?
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10-23-2018 , 08:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cizixap
probably it's not that bad to reshove here because there are dead money on the table + bounty.
OP, what was the bounty size of BB?
I believe it was around 20 dollars.
Do you know of any one that made the ICM calculations on calling with bounties involved?

I assume it will be something like:

value of bounty translated into chip stack (based on ICM)
so maybe a 20$ bounty is equal to x amount of chips
add this chipstack to the pot to be won and do simple EV calculation.

i have 26% equity against jj+ aq+

#1 (without bounty)
fold: -2BB
call:
win: +26bb (26%)=6.76
lose: -18bb (74%)=-13.32
=-6.7BB

if we add the bounty of 20$ based on the initial stack of 25k. It would be maybe 4 times the starting stack? so 100k which is 83bb


#2 (with bounty)
fold: -2BB
call:
win: +109bb (26%)=28.34
lose: -18bb (74%)=-13.32
=+15bb


it's late here so I'm not sure if this makes sense. I can't quickly come up with a good way to calculate the chip value based on ICM. The 100k is on the small end I think.
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10-24-2018 , 02:26 AM
^^^ HRC can calculate both of cEV and $EV with bounties taken into account. But are we on the final table? Stack sizes imply that we are still far from ITM..
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