Hey guys,

The question here is how to react to this min-reraise on the turn? What hands do you think he has? Does his bet size look strong or on the contrary weak? How would you play my KQ on the turn?

I only played 13 hands with this player: His VP =13, PR 13, 3B = 0

I folded but after reviewing my hand it seems a little bit weak from my side to fold so easily. I just couldn't figure out why he would make this freaking min-raise!!!

Lets share opinions, curious about this one!

Thanks

I don't like bet folding here. Just check back.

Why would I check back this turn? I do not see the value. He could have many draws or weaker hands still and I want to protect my hand

Weird hand. Like the 2 barrels. Don't like the fold although it's yuck spot, can't blame you I'm confused by sizing too.

Shortfuse, I also do not like folding turn but what am I going to do? He is surely going to shove the river and I will have to fold anyways if I think I am beat so I am saving more chips but folding straight away on the turn.

Rewind - Maybe my flop bet is too small? The flop is a bit draw-heavy-ish, maybe 650 is better. Gives me more info if he calls and I get more value at the same time. I would also like to see myself betting bigger on the turn, around 1000 (he surely won't bluff raise if I bet this big).

I just typed a huge long post but I timed out. Basically I broke the hand down and I think realistically the only hand that would play this way that makes sense is 74s and potentially 77 or 44 although 44 is unlikely. I just don't see villain bluffing too much in this spot given the stack sizes.

Sorry man, feel bad for you but thanks for the effort. 74 or 77 maybe J7 could make sense... I don't see him bluffing in this spot. Do you ever check the turn there?

you can't have a good read on him with 13 hands. So cautious play is better. I can check turn . His defend range has a lot of draws, so i don't want to create a big pot with my top pair.

I liked your fold. Calling is not an option. If you shove it will be a gamble, not a calculated risk. If he bluffed or had a set, he played bad.

Begrudgingly calling. Folding is very exploitable for the price we get. I know villains line looks strong and will include some 2 pair, but in a 13 hand sample I don't think you can rule out him getting excited with Qxcc or Jxcc on the turn and clicking it back I'd play all my continuing range as a call here so that when I reach river, my turn calls include sets/2pair.

On a side note for those that say fold, it's likely that having a Q is better than having KK+ here because you block more 2 pair type hands.

Sick logic

That's relevant Greg only under assumption he's at least somewhat balanced.
Kk+ have better equity vs wide merged unbalanced value range.

Seems like pair+draw type hand, doubt marginal 2p interested in taking line.

I don't see how this can be true.

This can be true for sure, but yeah it's closer if we remove 1p out of his range.
Mixed it up w/ another scenario.
Guess it depends on how we construct his range.

Don't have software rn. Subbed.

If we call here, are we ever folding to the likely river jam for ~2000 more or so even if it's a club?

You can fold some hands on the river. Your river call range should be narrower than your turn call range, otherwise your opponent would never have incentive to bluff.

What?

edited!

It would be nice if you had more history with him but as played I don't think I fold here seeing this is one of the top hands in your value range here. Folding here would be purely exploitative and based on your opponent

I'd call raise and most rivers. Villain probably thinks you're weak because you bet half pot on flop followed by less than half pot on turn..

No way im folding turn for this Price, i like the flop and turn barrels, check turn is just heavily RO. Would call lots of rivers very unhappy tho.

wp if you folded turn

Seems like everyone has a different opinion!!!! I gues its plater dependant!

Call and re evaluate on river.

villain c/r turn with 2pairs & sets only

Board: Qd Js 7c 4c
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 84.031% 84.03% 00.00% 4215 0.00 { 77, QJs, Q7s, J7s, 74s, QJo }
Hand 1: 15.969% 15.97% 00.00% 801 0.00 { AA }

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Board: Qd Js 7c 4c

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 84.031% 84.03% 00.00% 4215 0.00 { 77, QJs, Q7s, J7s, 74s, QJo }
Hand 1: 15.969% 15.97% 00.00% 801 0.00 { KK }

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Board: Qd Js 7c 4c

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 90.283% 90.28% 00.00% 5482 0.00 { 77, QJs, Q7s, J7s, 74s, QJo }
Hand 1: 09.717% 09.72% 00.00% 590 0.00 { KQo }


Whether we add TPs, draws or not KQ is never better than KK+.
I failed to create a scenario where it would`ve been true.