I have been thinking about it lately and I think that this spot is a little bit more complexe that it appears first.
Hero as a median stack. Field is full of recreational players and I did got luck on the redraw at 2 tables lefts for all the big stacks got on the other table ( 17M, 14, 12M,8M,8M)
I dont show what I did but I'd like to know what you'll do in this specific spot regarding Hero stacks and taking into consideration what we know about the field level and the payout structure ( 100€ to 9th and then gradually to 1K6€ for first)
I did not yet take a look at what ICMIZER says about it for I'm not sure that we should take into consideration ICM yet ?
Here's the hand


Winamax Poker - Tournament "MONSTER STACK" buyIn: 4.50€ + 0.50€ level: 34 - HandId: #1095824282388267009-389-1542755357 - Holdem no limit (30000/125000/250000) - 2018/11/20 23:09:17 UTC

Table: 'MONSTER STACK(255141473)#000' 8-max (real money) Seat #1 is the button

Seat 1: Ouloulila (3344444)

Seat 2: Shiroh (5587374)

Seat 3: Blaziken83 (8577564)

Seat 5: 2Guys1Flop (6349100)

Seat 6: TANDAJA (4347959)

Seat 7: fandjo8389 (5613316)

Seat 8: Poker-Maniak (7058816)

*** ANTE/BLINDS ***

Shiroh posts ante 30000

Blaziken83 posts ante 30000

Ouloulila posts ante 30000

2Guys1Flop posts ante 30000

TANDAJA posts ante 30000

fandjo8389 posts ante 30000

Poker-Maniak posts ante 30000

Shiroh posts small blind 125000

Blaziken83 posts big blind 250000

Dealt to Shiroh [Jd Jc]



Vilain 1 : 19/17/33 on 100 hands with 7% d'open early ( I did not look this stat as I played the hand l)

Vilain 2 : 25/16/33 on 90 mains, loose and passive recreational player ( As I played the hand i did not expect him to be trapping regarding the profil and the stage of the tournament )

Sorry guys I messed up the HH. There it its

Winamax Poker - Tournament "MONSTER STACK" buyIn: 4.50€ + 0.50€ level: 34 - HandId: #1095824282388267009-389-1542755357 - Holdem no limit (30000/125000/250000) - 2018/11/20 23:09:17 UTC

Table: 'MONSTER STACK(255141473)#000' 8-max (real money) Seat #1 is the button

Seat 1: Ouloulila (3344444)

Seat 2: Shiroh (5587374)

Seat 3: Blaziken83 (8577564)

Seat 5: 2Guys1Flop (6349100)

Seat 6: TANDAJA (4347959)

Seat 7: fandjo8389 (5613316)

Seat 8: Poker-Maniak (7058816)

*** ANTE/BLINDS ***

Shiroh posts ante 30000

Blaziken83 posts ante 30000

Ouloulila posts ante 30000

2Guys1Flop posts ante 30000

TANDAJA posts ante 30000

fandjo8389 posts ante 30000

Poker-Maniak posts ante 30000

Shiroh posts small blind 125000

Blaziken83 posts big blind 250000

Dealt to Shiroh [Jd Jc]

*** PRE-FLOP ***

2Guys1Flop raises 297500 to 547500

TANDAJA folds

fandjo8389 calls 547500

Poker-Maniak folds

Ouloulila folds

Hero ?

Trivial all in.

@killer_kill

Yeah you say " trivial" but it actually isn't that so. Thats why i'm asking. Can you develop on what you are saying . Because saying things without developing dont interest me.

Actually I run the simulation on ICMIZER with the payout structure and it is a loosing shove. So still that trivial ? ...

https://imgur.com/a/WsTVset

With 13 people left and you being the shortest stack at the table this is not even an ICM spot. This is not even a thread. I'm sorry you the lost the hand

Three main ranges

Tier 1: JJ+,AK
Tier 2: TT+,AQ+
Tier 3: 99+, AJ+

You have a Tier 1 hand 20bb and single open and capped caller in front at a 8m table, Its different if your facing a 3b but you proly should be shoving even Tier 2+ here

In regards to icm, this is more of a pre-icm spot (semi-final table) then icm, you want to be setting yourself up now with a big stack to cash in on the FT not folding the the top of your range and dwindling down your stack and FE so your not competitive at the FT at all

I'm sorry I can't imagine a world where I have 22 blinds, JJ and I can squeeze all in and not doing it. I can't also see how ICM would say to fold here either.

RyanK - have you any idea of poker?