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10-15-2017 , 06:28 PM

PokerIvey

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 166

Hello,

Was this push correct?

HoldemResources says yes with: 18.5%, 22+ A3s+ A7o+ KTs+ KJo+ QJs

But ICMIZER2 says it was wrong: (10.7%) 66+,A8s+,A9o+,KQs

What is right?

Poker Stars, $100 Buy-in (4,000/8,000 blinds, 1,000 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37849565

MP2: 131,549 (16.4 bb)
MP3: 331,384 (41.4 bb)
CO: 136,074 (17 bb)
Hero (BTN): 59,620 (7.5 bb)
SB: 172,268 (21.5 bb)
BB: 151,024 (18.9 bb)
MP1: 391,424 (48.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 3

2 folds, MP3 raises to 16,000, CO folds, Hero raises to 58,620 and is all-in, SB raises to 171,268 and is all-in, BB calls 142,024 and is all-in, MP3 folds

Flop: (381,668) T

(3 players, 3 are all-in)
Turn: (381,668) T

(3 players, 3 are all-in)
River: (381,668) 4

(3 players, 3 are all-in)

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10-15-2017 , 07:14 PM

persianpunisher

veteran

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 2,818

What opening range did you assign to MP3?

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10-16-2017 , 01:31 AM

PokerIvey

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 166

He was very Loose 45/43 on 22 Hands. I give him any combinations(Connectors, Broadway, Ax.....) and so on.

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10-16-2017 , 07:08 AM

mashxx

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 7,807

You can easily figure out this hand yourself. Just assigned your perceived range (keep in mind he's calling you with his whole range and reshoveable stacks behind him should also limit it somehow) and run the numbers. It's as easy at it gets.

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10-16-2017 , 03:42 PM

Pay4MyRent

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 435

So little fold equity here which makes it such a crummy spot to shove. Fold. Shove 6s+ vs standard opening range in spot, no?

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10-17-2017 , 07:44 PM

nomalice

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 1,653

we're shoving 7.5bb for a pot of 17 - if we were closing the action we would need 44% equity vs his calling range (obv no fold equity ). 33 has 44% vs 25% opening range (if he opens wider it might go up more ) but u also have to include overcalls from sb and bb in the math so this is pretty easy fold if u ask me.

as for your different results from icmizer and hrc it's pbb due to differently pre-setted ranges. set em up same and manually next time. both programs are calculating cEV with same algorythm.

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