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09-28-2017 , 04:06 AM

Bdsinc2.0

centurion

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 184

BB Hero: 72k. First orbit at the table. Image is somewhat maniacal generally but I'm not really sure anyone at this table knows that.

SB: 80k decent tourney reg that I've played minimally with. Competent as far as I can tell but no specific reads.

800/1600. 200a

Folds around

SB makes it 3900

Hero calls: Ks5s

Flop: Js 5c 3D

SB: bets 3200
hero: calls

Turns (J53) 8h

SB: bet 7250
Hero: calls

River: (J538) 2x

SB bets: 12.2k
Hero:calls

Thought process:

Villain probably limps some of his good/decent Jacks that want to go three streets with. He probably won't take this line with 99 or 1010 so he's kind of polarized to JJ+ Or a draw/A hi.

Standard?

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09-29-2017 , 05:48 AM

wowsooooted

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 5,077

unless we have reads he barrels often I think we need to fold somewhere, im thinking river.

He should be very polar and we have every Jx and hero call combo

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09-29-2017 , 09:03 AM

user12345

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,737

Yes its uncomfortable when he bets 12 into 30 otr.
You probably only good vs those guys whose skills combine incompetence w/ spaziness.
Std nit-expo-regs underbluff this sizing like always.

Not blocking missed draws on rainbow texture seems a good thing.

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10-04-2017 , 12:00 PM

gregz41

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,609

Jam a possibility?

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10-04-2017 , 03:13 PM

user12345

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,737

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Originally Posted by gregz41

Jam a possibility?

Expo overbluff is viable vs some guys, but we dont rep much and river spr is low.

Guess we're better off restricting bluffs to portion of 54, 43 we came to the river with, maybe few more 5x.
Blocking KK, KJ seems bad but K5 becomes better ofc if he never plays 64 this way.

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10-05-2017 , 04:16 AM

OutPlayU27

old hand

Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 1,688

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Originally Posted by Bdsinc2.0

BB Hero: 72k. First orbit at the table. Image is somewhat maniacal generally but I'm not really sure anyone at this table knows that.

SB: 80k decent tourney reg that I've played minimally with. Competent as far as I can tell but no specific reads.

800/1600. 200a

Folds around

SB makes it 3900

Hero calls: Ks5s

Flop: Js 5c 3D

SB: bets 3200

hero: calls

Turns (J53) 8h

SB: bet 7250

Hero: calls

River: (J538) 2x

SB bets: 12.2k

Hero:calls

Thought process:

Villain probably limps some of his good/decent Jacks that want to go three streets with. He probably won't take this line with 99 or 1010 so he's kind of polarized to JJ+ Or a draw/A hi.

Standard?

If I'm V , ill go for for 3 streets with QJ+ (esp BvB)
Otr I'll prob fold and move on.

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10-05-2017 , 01:52 PM

jpgiro

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 1,433

I really don't hate this call. We don't block any draws and do block 55 and random 2p hands that would certainly take this line. Also think it's plausible villain would check one street some times with Jx to induce us to bluff on later streets, which means this line could be more bluff heavy than you'd think.

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