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109 Battle Royal FT-Spot 109 Battle Royal FT-Spot

10-14-2020 , 12:08 PM
No Limit Holdem Tournament
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9 Players
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$50+$50+$9

Stacks:
UTG (241k) 60bb
UTG+1 (561k) 140bb
MP1 (48k) 12bb
MP2 (55k) 14bb
MP3 Hero (134k) 33bb
CO (317k) 79bb
BTN (384k) 96bb
SB (131k) 33bb
BB (220k) 55bb

Blinds: 2k/4k Ante 400

Pre-Flop: (9.6k, 9 players) Hero is MP3 K K
4 folds, Hero raises to 8.4k, CO calls 8.4k, 2 folds, BB calls 4.4k
Flop: Q 6 Q (31k, 3 players)

BB checks, Hero ?

Pretty standard spot, that's why I post it in SMTT, but I'd still like some opinions.

CO is somewhat nitty and straightforward, nothing out of the ordinary. I've only seen him go to showdown w strong hands. I've tagged BB as an aggro fish but I don't think we have much history.

What's your plan for this Flop and different runouts? I have no Bounties on me fwiw
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10-14-2020 , 01:48 PM
Most of any analysis that can be made here is with payouts and bounties of all players.

Without that piece of information, any advice can be wrong.
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10-14-2020 , 08:38 PM
I'd opt to check not sure what I'm doing on different runouts tho exactly. This seems like a nice time to protect our check range when we're sandwiched with an overpair in a spot like this since I'm not thrilled getting raised.
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10-15-2020 , 02:18 PM
I think its a good board to check /call generally but given ICM situation even more so - tempting for "aggro fish" to bluff at us.
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10-15-2020 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Pouled
Most of any analysis that can be made here is with payouts and bounties of all players.

Without that piece of information, any advice can be wrong.

While I agree with you to a certain extent, I don't think those informations should influence our decisions that drastically in this hand. We only cover 2 other stacks (which didn't have huge bounties iirc) and payouts are pretty standard/rather topheavy.


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Originally Posted by killer_kill
I'd opt to check not sure what I'm doing on different runouts tho exactly. This seems like a nice time to protect our check range when we're sandwiched with an overpair in a spot like this since I'm not thrilled getting raised.
That's also my instinct in spots like this, more often than not I find myself in these spots:

Turn: 5 (31k, 3)
BB checks, Hero bets 17k, CO calls 17k, BB folds
River: 4 (64k, 2)
Hero?
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10-15-2020 , 03:43 PM
I think we can mix b/f and c/evaluate with non Kd combos and bet Kd combos at a higher frequency but he's straight forward. I'd expect CO to prob raise some Qx hands on the turn after flop checks through as well.
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10-15-2020 , 07:49 PM
I will check. I am happy to call small bets vs CO. If he checks, small bet OTT (other than A). Ugly spot, because no one will pay with weaker hand two bets. Only the aggro fish, but this is a small part from his range. Very small...Passive and nitty (fold vs big bets), that's it. Imo...

As played, OTR check or small bet-fold. I don't think he will waste his chips for such an obv bluff (he will bet OTF with Qx+ in a bounty tournament, "straightforward" you said). Imo...Ony 55 , but I think he will have exactly this if he bet (shove) or raise (shove) here.

Last edited by insomnia666; 10-15-2020 at 08:05 PM.
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10-16-2020 , 03:27 AM
seems like bet about 1/3 pot fold on the river - given read as sf V they will have quite a few lower PPs - it's playing our hand a bit face up but I doubt sf player is going to suddenly start bluff raising on the FT
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10-16-2020 , 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by oldgoat
seems like bet about 1/3 pot fold on the river - given read as sf V they will have quite a few lower PPs - it's playing our hand a bit face up but I doubt sf player is going to suddenly start bluff raising on the FT

+1


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10-16-2020 , 12:44 PM
Sometimes I really wish we had someone on this forum with pioSolver to run some of these C-bet spots for us, but unfortunately...

I do have a handful of solved spots and QQ7ss on BTN vs BB is one of them. Obviously it won’t be a perfect comparison for this hand. And maybe it’s not even worth looking at but I thought I’d share...




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Last edited by Captain-Hindsight; 10-16-2020 at 12:51 PM.
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