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What's the difference between playing hyper-aggressive and super-aggressive? What's the difference between playing hyper-aggressive and super-aggressive?

08-17-2023 , 09:09 AM
I can hardly find any info on either styles, especially super-aggressive. Can you explain theoretically and also provide some example hands?
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08-17-2023 , 11:36 PM
These old definitions aren't used much any more - though you'll still hear TAG LAG nit rock fish whale etc from time to time

In the 'old days', super-aggressive and hyper-aggressive meant much the same thing - someone opening a far wider range of hands than expected, especially in late position, and generally following that up with a high aggression post-flop.

It's interesting to note that correct GTO ranges today, especially in late position and BB defend, would most likely have been considered super-aggressive in 2010.

These days ranges are evaluated in relation to expected GTO opening ranges for each position and stack depth, with some adjustment for the stage of the tournament / icm.

ICM effects in particular can result in a large stack correctly opening a super-wide range of hands on the event bubble, significant pay jump, or final table (watch Joe McKeehan on the 2015 WSOP main event final table). But playing the same ranges / style at other stages of the tournament would be easily exploitable and very -EV.
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08-18-2023 , 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by oldsilver
These old definitions aren't used much any more - though you'll still hear TAG LAG nit rock fish whale etc from time to time

In the 'old days', super-aggressive and hyper-aggressive meant much the same thing - someone opening a far wider range of hands than expected, especially in late position, and generally following that up with a high aggression post-flop.

It's interesting to note that correct GTO ranges today, especially in late position and BB defend, would most likely have been considered super-aggressive in 2010.

These days ranges are evaluated in relation to expected GTO opening ranges for each position and stack depth, with some adjustment for the stage of the tournament / icm.

ICM effects in particular can result in a large stack correctly opening a super-wide range of hands on the event bubble, significant pay jump, or final table (watch Joe McKeehan on the 2015 WSOP main event final table). But playing the same ranges / style at other stages of the tournament would be easily exploitable and very -EV.

Thanks, oldsilver, that sort of explains it, although not what hyper aggressive is. And I read Scotty Nguen used to play these styles. But thanks anyway.
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08-19-2023 , 06:18 AM
I found this old article by Daniel Negreanu talking about hyper-aggressive play and how it is useful particularly in big tournaments when deep stacked, such as early in the WSOP.

https://www.fcnp.com/2008/08/06/dani...ve-poker-play/
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08-19-2023 , 05:45 PM
That article is from 2008. Poker has evolved.
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