Hero (SB): t2712972 M = 21.23
BB: t22796 M = 0.18
CO: t2226670 M = 17.42
BTN: t3572562 M = 27.96

Pre Flop: (t127796) Hero is SB with K A
CO raises to t2160000, 1 fold Hero???


BB is all in and has less then BB

payout is
#1 1800
#2 1370
#3 970
#4 672

what is our calling range here?

CO tank raise and left like bb behind (lol but i dont think that he will fold if we shove)
villains werent regs and were kinda tight scared money

I'm guessing blinds are around 80/160k?

Snapcall.

you cover him so its not close at all.

given the very flat payout structure it'd would be alot closer if he covers you.
not sure if i would fold but it's my cutoff in either way.

Snapcall

We do well vs his range and the payjump between #3 and #4 is not much.

This gives us a chance of winning it.

Also, we have a few bb's left even if we loose so that we fight over 3rd with the shortie.

No brainer. imho

other payjumbs are tiny as well

Snap. This isn't even close.

sure, but i reckoned this case was bcs of shortstack per se. so, either you take this ~800usd pfai with ~55% equity or you nit-fold-it to maximize the chance of winning 300usd more.

i dont understand the bolded part
you say the $EV value of our stack right now is about 800?

nope. bcs I have sick money and playskill scoping skills, I just figured that by winning the flip and getting clear cl, wed make it somewhere between 1st and 2nd position (then rounded it a bit down) and win, as a global average (lol), like 1.5k.

i also ranged his openjam to 55+,ATs+,KQs,ATo+,KQo vs which we have 55% equity

if he covers its def a fold, i'd call here as well but OMG SNAPPPPPPPPPCALL is just wrong. like you should snap him off with ~15-20% of hands if you think AK is a snapcall.

rough "math" on the spot when we cover him
call: 45% of the time the $EV value will be something like 1050, 55% of the time it will be ~1500 (taking your edge into account), ~1.28k or something average.
fold: $EV value of the stack is the same, i did not look up the $EV number of our stack but ~1100ish sounds good to me
furthermore it will go up alot after this hand since BB will bust ~65% of the time.
overall our $EV is about ~1250 if we fold, +-30

point accepted. term "snap" to be changed to "not supathrilled but its still a..." CALL

Why are we using such a tight range? He's shoving ~14BB with 2 people to act, do we really expect him to fold suited aces, A9o-, 22-44 or to never minraise/induce with the top of his range? It's not like he has to be ridic tight, even if he's called and loses, he'll still be 3rd a lot more often than 4th. I expect us to have at least 60% equity.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 37.506% 35.03% 02.47% 172771132 12186513.50 { 22+, A2s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A6o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 1: 62.494% 60.02% 02.47% 295999393 12186513.50 { AcKd }

This may be a wideish range, but you get the point.

"villains werent regs and were kinda tight scared money"

your range is obv stdish for regs.

ooops. i misread that the shortie folded while leaving a bb behind (=2bb), so that it would be a 20bb openjam. my bad.

and yes, your range is a bit too wide, but point is good

hence, i will put the SNAP back in the call

yea blinds r 60k/120k

note: i forgot to mention that we were talking about chop couple hands before but guy who is BB (which i know is reg) in hand dint replay in chat so we continue to play, and he kinda imo think that we are scared money and start shiping like 3-4 hands in row after chat but got snap from guy who is now BTN with AT hand before this hand and loose with his 64s...

and then this hand came...

imo my reads were that CO hand range is wagering towards PP ( i dont think he is looser then AT+,KQ,22+ and imo this is prety loose for him)

i cover him for only 3bb and if i loose and bb wins it will get prety ugly

so considering all that and that probly we will chop if BB is out (~1300$ each), do we call here?