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07-04-2014 , 10:42 PM
I also think Main Event should be 3 day event with Day 1 play for around 10 hours and day 2 until FT is reached.
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07-04-2014 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by margenov
I also think Main Event should be 3 day event with Day 1 play for around 10 hours and day 2 until FT is reached.
+1. Reason not to is maybe that is has a huge collusion risk.

Last edited by GuySmiley; 07-04-2014 at 10:53 PM.
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07-04-2014 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by GuySmiley
+1. Reason not to is maybe that is has a huge collision risk.
Do you mean collusion ? I doubt that is really a problem.
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07-04-2014 , 10:54 PM
Yes, pretty tempting to have a better player take over when your stack is worth $500k. And that's a lot easier to do when you have a day to prepare.
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07-04-2014 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GuySmiley
Yes, pretty tempting to have a better player take over when your stack is worth $500k. And that's a lot easier to do when you have a day to prepare.
Well, even if there was no day3 you can always find a guy from your city come to you in under an hour. If you wanted to cheat/collude you will always find a way ( not saying you should! ).
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07-05-2014 , 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by anuj22
Bryan, if you are seeing this thread please remove the re entry 2-7 SD tournament. A regular 2-7 SD tournament would be nice and this is not just me to say, all regulars who play 2-7sd tourneys are against it and not everybody has an account on 2p2 to make a comment here.
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Originally Posted by TooRareToDie
^^I agree.
I won't play it as re-entry, but would play it as a freezeout. The whole game-dynamics become terrible for the first hours with re-entry, imo.
-2

Keep this as re-entry.
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07-05-2014 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by timex
Run Raidalot's SHR and make it a 4 phase tourney.

Week 1 run a bunch of phase 1 $50 tournies where about 10% of people make phase 2.
Week 2 run a bunch of phase 2 tournies where you can either buyin direct for $500 or use one of your stacks from phase 1. About 10% of people make phase 3.
Week 3 run a bunch of phase 3 tournies where you can either buyin direct for $5000 or use one of your stacks from phase 2. About 10% of people make phase 4- once you win entry to phase 4 you can't play any more of these.
Final day run a phase 4 tourney where you can either buyin direct for $50000 or use your stack from phase 3. Normal SHR payouts
4 phase seems too complex IMO. But what about a big 5k qualifier (with lots of round 1 sattys) in which ppl who win it should play the event?
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07-05-2014 , 06:51 PM
Must play satellites would in general be great for the games, the satellites as well as the target events. If you have a seat/ticket already, you cant grind anymore of the must-play-sats.
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07-05-2014 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TooRareToDie
Must play satellites would in general be great for the games, the satellites as well as the target events. If you have a seat/ticket already, you cant grind anymore of the must-play-sats.
I like the must-play rule but i don't get the donotplayanymore. Altough it would be good as a general rule it would affect satellites too much and you would end up with the late sats being half the field.
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07-05-2014 , 09:08 PM
yeah, must-play is great but if you exclude players who've already won a seat you decimate the player pool for the sats
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07-05-2014 , 11:10 PM
Yeah must play would almost certainly lead to much smaller prizepools
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07-06-2014 , 08:30 AM
must play satellites already exist. They are called deadline satellite. Either someone want to play the target event after satellite win or not. No need to make things worse for most players (cannot decide anymore, lower satellite entrants).
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07-08-2014 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by anuj22
Having a re entry tournament always give edge to players with high bankrolls. Anyway if they are going to have a re entry tournament this time, I expect them to double the gtd prizepool.
Why would you expect that the guarantee would double? Adding re-entry to a particular tournament doesn't generally have that kind of effect on the overall pool.

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Originally Posted by margenov
I also think Main Event should be 3 day event with Day 1 play for around 10 hours and day 2 until FT is reached.
We will likely run the Main Event (and other tournaments) as a 3-day tournament in the future, however it's not properly supported in the client at the moment, and we don't want to run large 3-day tournaments manually if there is no overwhelming need to do so. There isn't in this case, so we've chosen to run this year's WCOOP Main Event as a 2-day tournament.

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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
yeah, must-play is great but if you exclude players who've already won a seat you decimate the player pool for the sats
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Originally Posted by whitesnow
must play satellites already exist. They are called deadline satellite. Either someone want to play the target event after satellite win or not. No need to make things worse for most players (cannot decide anymore, lower satellite entrants).
The overall opinion on must-play satellites seems to be changing, with more players than ever posting that most or all satellite seats won should be played, with this requirement enforced by the system. I doubt that we will make cash satellites must-play at any point in the near future (in fact, I'm pretty much certain that we won't), but I'm very interested in further opinions and comments on this issue.

Thanks for taking the time to give feedback, everyone... it's much appreciated!
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07-08-2014 , 12:18 PM
Still allow all sats to be unregged but dont allow players to sell tourney $ so it makes sure they have to spend the dollars in other games instead of just selling their $ and withdrawing.
Good for the games
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07-08-2014 , 03:12 PM
Please bring back extreme sats. Instead of all the giveaway promotions under the form of all-in tourneys that you keep offering, take that money and put it as added seats in the extremes. And the tickets won should be must-play, as they were before.

I'm curious to see what others think of this, personally I've had enough of those all-in freeroll offers and they don't encourage me to play anymore. Extreme sats, on the other hand, were offering a much better chance of getting a more expensive ticket for a smaller buy-in, and I's definitely take a shot in most of those sats, if they were held.

One time !!!
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07-08-2014 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by the_bridler
Still allow all sats to be unregged but dont allow players to sell tourney $ so it makes sure they have to spend the dollars in other games instead of just selling their $ and withdrawing.
Good for the games
Again I think this would decrease the popularity of satellites markedly.
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07-08-2014 , 04:53 PM
why?
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07-08-2014 , 05:05 PM
there's a definite subset of players who grind sats for T$ but have little/no interest in playing the targets. Taking them out of the player pool would presumably not be a positive for the liquidity of the satelites, though it's arguable that this would be offset by the benefit to the MTT pools.

However it'd definitely suck for ring game grinders if they lost the ability to sell T$, as sats are a popular way of converting FPPs
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07-08-2014 , 05:09 PM
Because people that play them for money will stop playing them. You may argue that this does not matter and those people were not using the $T in a productive way so that is no loss. This may be correct but in many cases (regular mtts in particular) if you remove some players, the guarantee falls, less people are attracted and so on and so on.
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07-08-2014 , 05:51 PM
what about addressing the overwhelming amount of requests for more/bigger PLO tourneys?
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07-09-2014 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by _MicahJ_
what about addressing the overwhelming amount of requests for more/bigger PLO tourneys?
+1
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07-09-2014 , 10:03 AM
Damn, SCOOP replays are already gone from the client. Last year they were available atleast until the end of July.

Anyone know anyone who happened to record majority of these? (Interested in the high ones of events 1, 2, 8, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 20, 22, 23, 28, 34, 40, 41, 43 and 44)
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07-09-2014 , 10:58 PM
Seems like a LOT of KO and SKO. I would really appreciate more of the tournaments (of all game types) to be "normal"
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07-10-2014 , 04:15 AM
Hey Bryan can you roughly say when you'll publish the final schedule?
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07-10-2014 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ratslla
Hey Bryan can you roughly say when you'll publish the final schedule?
And when will the sattelites start running, too. And hopefully the extreme sats..?
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