In case my textual diagram was misinterpreted I'm saying change the Sunday Warm-up WCOOP special edition into an ordinary Sunday Warm-up, that opens up a space in the WCOOP line-up for a HSPLO MTT on one of the Sundays.





How long ago are you talking?



It's great that you and everyone else are contributing to the discussion of MTTs on Stars, but please just stick to the issues that directly affect you, PLO High Rollers don't exactly fit the bill.

big issue with plo mtts is theyre not antes and often 9 handed

6max with ante plo mtt would be nice

just make a 5k or 10k plo 6m on saturday before wcoop main, everyone's happy. have the 2k horse replace one of the two (!) limit holdem tourneys that are running that thursday and friday. no one cares or plays limit holdem anymore. PLO is huge and this should be promoted on the site (btw I don't plan on playing any PLO, it's just simple logic).

make the 700 progressive sko on that saturday a 2k regular fo two-day event or something too please

and again, just to reiterate a few slightly higher buyins would be nice to see. Not asking for SCOOP level buyins (NEVER AGAIN GOD) but just something more exciting than a random 200 fo

Before the date range of most of those games. And a lot of times on FTP before Stars had horse. You know, back before Sunday was NLH day with the Sunday Million etc.

WCOOP scheduling is something that affects me.

You guys want a highroller PLO yet you don't offer suggestions as to HOW to get a PLO Highroller. IE An argument for 4 events on a day or an argument for what tournament it should replace. The chance the Sunday Warmup isn't a WCOOP event is 0.001%. Something else will need to get axed for this event to live. Be realistic with your suggestions and be constructive was the point of my message. Maybe I should have been more clear.

See, there we go.

Run Raidalot's SHR and make it a 4 phase tourney.

Week 1 run a bunch of phase 1 $50 tournies where about 10% of people make phase 2.
Week 2 run a bunch of phase 2 tournies where you can either buyin direct for $500 or use one of your stacks from phase 1. About 10% of people make phase 3.
Week 3 run a bunch of phase 3 tournies where you can either buyin direct for $5000 or use one of your stacks from phase 2. About 10% of people make phase 4- once you win entry to phase 4 you can't play any more of these.
Final day run a phase 4 tourney where you can either buyin direct for $50000 or use your stack from phase 3. Normal SHR payouts

This would be a cool idea for the $5k main

I wouldn't play it then

P.S. And I'm the kind of fish you want in these games

Why not? It would just be a satellite system, the main would still be one entry per person. Only difference is it would be a bigger field since you can't unreg from the sats

Something like this.

Hmm I might have been with a wrong impression. If it stays 5k for main with 1 entry, it's all good. It's definitely an interesting idea. However, some people still wouldn't register, if they see others starting with 3 times more chips. Maybe it could be implemented for something similar to the Football flight - phase 1 - $10/20, phase 2 - $100/200, phase 3 final - $1k/2k.

Hi Bryan,

thanks for this, please could you explain/reconsider the reasoning behind buyins for non holdem/plo event buyins? It seems like these were decided a long time (5+ years ago?) and just continue to this day - for example why is Razz a 500 when games like Triple Draw which is much more popular a 300, why is there both a 1k and a 200 LHE event etc? It seems to me that it make much more sense to standardise these to similar/same buyins in the region of 500-1k so they are not out of reach of most players, but are significantly bigger than the weekly $200 events and can be considered special.

thanks
Phil

+11111100000000000000000000

I wonder how many people play a 215 or 320 limit WCOOP but not a $530. I actually don't have an answer for this question. I know personally I plan on playing the FLO8 but if it were $1k I'd just have to pass. I assume some weaker/nonregs have similar feelings about punting a $215 or so but not a $530.

maybe the final phase can offer seats. rather than chiop carry over. so for the first few flight its a sattelite system where chips carry over. on the final flight your accumulated chips are now in a sattelite with a standard sattelite payout.

later phased entrants get an equivalent amount of chips proportionate to the phase they bought in.

i.e hypothetical example
phase 1 10$ = 5000
phase 2 100 = 50000
phase 3 1000 = 50000
phase 4 5k wcoop main starting stack.

no possibility to unreg any stage. would create a much bigger and softer main event

+1 but not courchevel maybe nl 2-7 triple draw, pl badugi or just anything else. courchevel hi/lo maybe

CTS listed this in the hsplo thread, but I'm pretty sure a 10k PLO heads up would be a welcome addition to the schedule and it wouldn't be too hard to accomodate (don't put it on the same days as other super high stakes tournies)

Bryan, if you are seeing this thread please remove the re entry 2-7 SD tournament. A regular 2-7 SD tournament would be nice and this is not just me to say, all regulars who play 2-7sd tourneys are against it and not everybody has an account on 2p2 to make a comment here.

^^I agree.
I won't play it as re-entry, but would play it as a freezeout. The whole game-dynamics become terrible for the first hours with re-entry, imo.

Why?

Looking good. Would make the main a 3-day event, assuming 2500 entries and 20k startstack and a total of 150bb in play when it finishes (on the optimistic side for duration) it'll take up to level 45 to complete. With about 33 minutes per level if you count breaks (again on the optimistic side, especially early breaks tend to be closer to 10 minutes), that's a total of about 25 hours. For an mtt that starts at 8:30pm playing 8-9 hours sounds a lot better than 12 and might actually make the difference for some people, for example me .

Re-entry will just be softer in 2-7, not sure why you're complaining Tooraretodie. Structure is deep enough that having to rebuy is not that common unless you really gamble it up. Even if you intend not to rebuy if you bust you should still not care whether it's re-entry or not, imo.

^^ Will be softer? Because regs don't use re-entry, but fish do? Cause you have zero clue on which entry your opponents are?

Anyway, there are some pro's and many con's, and I definintely don't want have a conversation about it now. It's been done before and has proven to be absolutely pointless, mainly because PS won't change anything. ( - insert one of a few hundred examples for it here - )

Next time I read smth I support, I will just post "+1" or "this" or whatever.

Intermediate NL HU please, maybe $700 or 1k? Only $215 and $10300 and nothing in between. Same as last year. If you're not gonna add one then atleast increase the buyin from $215 to $530. It's the WCOOP, buy-in should be higher than the weekly HU.

Good that you replaced last year's full-ring LHE with 6-max. +1 for keeping both two.

This is actually the one tourney Where I don't mind re-entry (obv would be a lot better if would be doublechance, but like thats going to happen). There is two good NLSD tourneys per year in PS and its like christmas to me when I can play those. Busting early to some ridic BB in some NLHE tourney is not a big deal, but when there is so limited chance to play this game I like the chance to get back in action if I go busto in early levels.

I don't like re-entries more than anyone else, but there should be some kind of chance to re-something in this one. Doublechance or 55-109 rb would be fantastic, but I take re-entry before freezeout in this one.

Having a re entry tournament always give edge to players with high bankrolls. Anyway if they are going to have a re entry tournament this time, I expect them to double the gtd prizepool.