Day 1B (I think). We start with 30,000 chips 40 minute levels. At this point it is 200/400. My stack is about 28,000 chips. Not a tough table but virtually no opportunities.

Folds to BTN who raises to 1100. He is a young Asian, wily and unpredictable. He was forced to turn over a turn bluff when managed to win a big pot with a small pair. SB calls I call in BB with QTo.

Flop is KJ9 two clubs I have no clubs. SB checks, I check (because its a board that should be cbet by BTN every time and I want to c/r), BTN checks it back.

Turn is a J. SB bets 2000 I call, BTN makes it 6000 SB calls I call. Wasn't sure what to do here. I thought about jamming. I thought about folding, but i wanted to see what happened on the river.

River is a 4 no flush got there. SB jams for 14,700. I have about 20,000 chips. I think that SB can be bluffing on a flush draw but I doubt it. SB can also have QT which would be a chop for about 11,000. I think I should fold but I end up putting out all my chips (I misunderstood and thought I had less chips than SB so I was calling). Oddly BTN almost called with trip J's but after tanking he folded and showed us the J.

My reason for calling ultimately was that I hadn't bet or raised on any street so I had under-repped my hand. I thought it was possible that SB had a hand like AJ/QJ.

All thoughts welcome.

I’m thinking I want to raise the turn. The board pair brings some danger and if sb didn’t lead I would want to lead myself. Raise the sb and get it in looks fine to me. There’s a possible exit if you raise and button jams and sb calls. But that’s debatable and depends on reads (and if you have another bullet etc).

Flop:

There is no such thing as a flop that gets bet 100% multi way. Well, maybe a super dry board like T22. Whatever, this is not a flop like that. I think donking the flop is very good here. We have the nuts, and there are plenty of ways for opponents to want to contest this pot.

I like a turn jam. No reason to think you are beat here. Button would always bet KJ on the flop. SB might have KJ, but there are just so many draws and Jx, etc. There are also a host of action killing cards. Your hand will never be better than it is now, and 'seeing the river' will allow the draws to play better than you do. The pot is plenty big enough that you are happy to fold out all the equity that is against you. Note that you might have to fade clubs, and another board pair, and a Jx hitting a kicker, and AQ/ATcc hitting a bigger straight. Even if none of that happens, you might not get value from your hand when you would have on the turn.

If we are dead here, that is just too bad.

Surprised no one else has weighed in here. Not that it means much, but curious about the result.

We were dead on the turn. SB had 99.

Surprised he called SB vs button with 99.

I know! And the BTN had been sort of wild opening. So a 3-bet pre-flop would have been very good. As it was, it made my call easy.


In the end I thought he could have KJ/J9 but it was worth the call to basically double up in case he had Jx.

Jamming turn after sb flats. River is gross because really looks like a panic to get paid jam, that being said I’m probably calling like 99 times out of 100 because I suck.

Disagree about leading flop. It's true that in mw pots, cb frequency goes down a lot but that's in theory. Irl, players overcbet. In this case, they shouldn't with SB's range having so many offsuit broadways (that should have 3b pre) but they'll do so nonetheless.

Also at 70eff, more likely to get money in by river either by playing xr vs pfa cb or raising vs SB turn lead. You can also overbet turn lead when sb checks after flop xxx. If you lead at this effective stack, you will too frequently end up in a node where IP or SB just play calls, reducing your chances of stacking them. At 40eff, I don't mind leading because it's less of a problem trying to get stacks in.

Once turn goes SB lead, BB call and BTN raises to an amount making SPR so low, just shove when it comes back to you.

Never folding river.

Either way, congratulate them on the boats.

I would honestly play this hand pretty much the same. I think the turn decision is a little close, but still probably calling. There are so few reasonable hands that btn can have and there are some hands that you beat. AJ, QJ, JT, etc. I think KJ probably bets the flop and KK will check this back some of the time. I would expect J9 or 99 to bet by btn.

SB's donk jam is bit weird. Because it's very unlikely that he has a busted flush and is bluffing after the btn raise the turn. I do also think that there are hands that he can have that you beat. Tough spot.

With an SPR just over 7, it is easy enough to get stacks in by the river with 3 bets (1/2 pot, then a little less than pot/pot does it). This may reduce the times we stack them, but winning a medium size pot on this board 3 ways is still fine. IME, when you force players to call check raises or overbets they tighten their ranges too much.

This is a dripping wet flop, and I wouldn't expect it to usually be cbet 3-way.

Since it is a flop that favors the opening raiser I thought it would be cbet even as a bluff. Especially because there are a lot of potential gutters. But I was wrong.

SB's flat-calling range here probably includes a significant number of Broadway hands which I think theoretically makes button more inclined to check here without a big hand.

I'm not really disagreeing with you but if I were the BTN I would cbet this type of flop (with 2 broadways) 100% of the time. Especially with a J. I think that SB calls a lot with PP < 99 (and apparently sometimes with exactly 99...). Either blind could have a K but I think I'd take the chance of finding out if there was a call or two or a c/r and let go from there.

If I got one or two calls I would check back the turn if I didn't improve.

A dry A or K high flop favors the preflop raiser. This flop is so wet that it would probably be best to check/fold with air 3-ways. It is likely to hit a lot of hands that make it to the flop.