2 hands that i feel like I've misplayed.

First one.

readless, new to table for most part, 5 hands in.
[converted_hand][hand_history]Party, $500 Buy-in (20/40 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 10 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12492112

UTG: 5,225 (130.6 bb)
BB: 4,990 (124.8 bb)
SB: 4,551 (113.8 bb)
UTG+2: 4,465 (111.6 bb)
MP3: 4,940 (123.5 bb)
CO: 5,220 (130.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): 4,970 (124.3 bb)
MP1: 4,755 (118.9 bb)
MP2: 5,139 (128.5 bb)
UTG+1: 4,925 (123.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 6
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to 120, 2 folds, MP3 calls 120, CO folds, Hero calls 120, 2 folds

Flop: (420) 5 Q 4 (3 players)
UTG+2 bets 280, MP3 folds, Hero raises to 650, UTG+2 calls 370

Turn: (1,720) 8 (2 players)
UTG+2 bets 860, Hero calls 860

River: (3,440) K (2 players)
UTG+2 bets 2,835 and is all-in, Hero folds

Preflop: ok, I like
Flop: probably not best idea but dont hate.
turn: is this always a flush? prbly.
riiver: okay i believe you now


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again readless and new to this table, :P

$109 9 handed mtt online
blinds 50/100
stacks 2k effective
I open to $300 in MP with red kings, btn calls, blinds fold.

flop: AA2r ($850)
Your plan for the rest of hand?

shameless bump, :P

come on guys tell me what you think!

1st Hand: WTF on almost every street, esp. turn and river as played....did you have a chip-burning itch at that point or something?

2nd Hand: I like a c/c otf with plans to turn my KK into a bluff on turn and/or river. c/c on turn then c/r on river (click it back) with plans to 4bet shove after he 3bets you

haha maybe

you are hilarious. *****!

hand 1 is horrendus spew.

hand 2, just play it like you would with the majority of your range.

500$s are not exactly my type of mid-stakes, sry dunno

Lol, is this always a flush? This thread cracks me up.

fold the flop in hand 1.
Hand 2 start by checking otf.

1)Either fold pf or flop 1st hand or just unreg pre.
2) After folding 1st hand, watch highlights of John Starks' dunk over Jordan and Grant several times on youtube until you get courage to
3) 4bet shove on river with your KK hand....no way he calls this as played, bro

ahh an internet bully. hu4rollz?! you piece of scum on my shoe who thinks hes funny but I will bend you over and stick a baseball bat up your hole as you cry for your momma you lil tard who still lives at home, plays super low and will be living in your moms basement for awhile. amirite?

if you got constructive feedback, I will listen but you are just an annoying troll. I know I played the first hand bad but if this is the kind of response I can expect on 2p2, then consider this my last post in this section.

I know I played hand1 bad, but I dont think preflop in hand1 is anything less then standard. I would say folding would be a bigger mistake. Flop I guess there is just no need, but I dont think anyone can hate on it to much. Turn I think is spew, I am just leveling myself because my bluffing ranges are off as I dont play tournaments and tend to over think some spots.

So far beaver you are just piecs of **** on this forum who thinks being a smart ass is cool. Trust me I was once like you, gotta grow up and try to make something of your pathetic life. Thank me later.

Wow, Johnny, I didnt mean to get you so worked up. Sorry bro, was only a joke. I failed to shift gears from BBV to Midstakes MTT this morning without trolling. Nice come back too. Dont take it too personal though-i'm sure play isnt that bad overall.

Oh and btw this isnt HU4rollz

chill infamous knickerbocker chucker. Look just like Starks took a 1 for 17 in the biggest game of his life you played hand 1 terribly. It happens, learn from it, and dont take it personally.

dont worry about it (unless you are leveling me with this apology, i never know anymore on what to think lol)

Its just when I post hands I just want to be intrigued and someone says something that could possibly trigger consideration and maybe lead to an interesting conclusion. Discussing hands properly with the right group of people can be EXTREMELY beneficial. Unfortunately for me I think this is where I have to take my discussion. Dont get me wrong there is probably some good discussion but a lot of good people dont actively look for these threads. I think the days of posting hands and getting good strategy discussion or at least an attempt at strategy are over so I shouldn't take the lack of quality responses in this thread personal.

I dont play donkaments anymore, and when I play bad I want you people to take note of it and I want to remember it and be held responsible for it. When the thread turns into a pissing war like I got in here, everything has failed with the actual learning process and I am just wasting everybody's time including my own. Maybe its my fault and I tend to over analyze things. Either way who cares, go smoke weed and enjoy life. Stay out of BBV, its entertaining but wont get you anywhere in the poker world. Good luck!

Thanks Texas Chuck for the response. A few questions mate.

fair enough and imo in a tournament this is correct. my flop play is spew more or less. on a non monotone flop it would be 100x better. i can find better spots to get an edge.

sure can we disect this real fast. some random questions lol.

1.) what kind of check/calling range do we have here versus betting range On AA2r?

me: any pp 88 and above?
c/c: 88-KK,occasionally an ace
betting: mostly an ace, any non pair hand, pocket fives or lower

2.) How much does a fd change on flop change this range? So AA2s?
Not much, I'd probably keep same range lol. But should it be changed in anyway (how do we figure this out?).

3.) Lets change the board to A22s? Does that change anything for you here =)?

should check ur entire value range otf that shallow. Not sure if u or villian has 20bb stack but if you do then u shouldnt have a non-value 3x open range anyway.

A22 is different because it increases the likelihood that villian has an A if he continues and you can b/f against passive villians. Im not worried with flush draws this shallow at all and so that wouldnt change anything for me.

ahh cool, thanks.

v good point sir and I agree. learning something new everyday about checking my whole value range here as a balanced strategy. betting all my bluffs.

wouldnt you b/f versus like 90% of people in this spot not just passive villains?

[QUOTE=JohnStarks;32516726]ahh cool, thanks.


v good point sir and I agree. learning something new everyday about checking my whole value range here as a balanced strategy. betting all my bluffs.
I'd check back mostly all of my value range on AA2 flop as well, unless you are betting your Ak, AJ, AQ the same amount of time and villain is capable of spewing. I just think a check back makes more sense here either way. I know you thought I was joking in the first post, but you could really rep hard on by raising otr when he donks again. He rarely has an ace here imo



wouldnt you b/f versus like 90% of people in this spot not just passive villains?[/QUOTE]

On board of A22, maybe 90% is a bit liberal imo and depends on buy-in level also. maybe 70%-ish

also, I should add/give props to Texas Chuck....he has good ideas here