Merge - $11+$1|<1.5 GTD 11 early bird> NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 4,207 (VPIP: 14.36, PFR: 10.77, 3Bet Preflop: 4.48, Hands: 203)
Hero (UTG+2): 2,572
MP: 4,990 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 28)
MP+1: 2,560 (VPIP: 29.90, PFR: 19.59, 3Bet Preflop: 11.90, Hands: 98)
CO: 8,270 (VPIP: 14.93, PFR: 9.23, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 67)
BTN: 9,510 (VPIP: 29.41, PFR: 7.84, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 51)
SB: 8,644 (VPIP: 30.56, PFR: 19.44, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 37)
BB: 4,620 (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 10.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 28)
UTG: 9,500 (VPIP: 48.48, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 33)

9 players post ante of 10, SB posts SB 50, BB posts BB 100

Pre Flop: (pot: 240) Hero has Q J

fold, fold, Hero raises to 200, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 100

Flop: (540, 2 players) 8 9 3
BB checks, Hero bets 270, BB calls 270

Turn: (1,080, 2 players) J
BB checks, Hero?

555/c?

Bet around 500, fold to shove
Call river bet if no scarecard comes off, if villain checks & no scarecard valuebet 1/3 pot, though this probably commits us so we might even check behind there.

my stats if means anything: 17/14/29/9(3b)

i also bet like 1/2 pot ott planning on betting smallish otr if river blanks. if he c/r ott i fold, same on river. we often get value from some 9's ott here. but i think we are a little bit limited on our options, we got tp decent kicker but board is so drawy. b/f is best imo

How do you guys range villain if u líke b/f here?

I think flushdraw (with or without T) usually raises flop. We're ahead against JT here but I think a check-call on flop and check-raise on turn means 2 pair/set too often. But maybe a fold is too nitty with our stack.

i dont see villain spew here a ton with pure bluffs, i think he could have some two pair combos, 98s, J9s definitly in his range, QT, sets, just so much that has us beat when he c/r turn. Or am i too scared here? i just think that c/c and then c/r on this board oop looks strong

Fold pre.
Check otf.
As played, ott bet 444/c

Those who advocate bc that's to a shove obviously?

Those who advocate bet folding are you taking into account we have the Q blocker for both draws and made str8 draws?

Those who advocate folding pre what's yur opening range from mp?