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12-12-2008 , 03:49 AM

deathduck

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Both villains are 13/13 over 7-8 hands or so.

Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: t15035
SB: t3145
BB: t2605
UTG: t2440
Hero (UTG+1): t8625
MP1: t7895
MP2: t8234
CO: t10325

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is UTG+1 with K

1 fold, Hero raises to t600, MP1 calls t600, 2 folds, BTN calls t600, 2 folds

Flop: (t2100) Q

(3 players)
Hero bets t1500, MP1 calls t1500, BTN calls t1500

Turn: (t6600) 3

(3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, BTN bets t6600, Hero ???

I insta-[censored] and will post results soon. What do you guys do here?

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12-12-2008 , 04:04 AM

unrealzeal

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No other reads? Nice little puzzle here cause he bet the exact size of your stack with two people to call him. I think I'm probably going broke here - he's trying to shut one of you out.

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12-12-2008 , 04:06 AM

zedveron

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i call

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12-12-2008 , 04:12 AM

deathduck

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What range are you guys putting him on? Aren't you guys worried about AJ/hearts/1010?? Don't forget about the other villain who called my flop bet, he could easily be slowplaying hearts on the turn.

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12-12-2008 , 04:33 AM

pajo!

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Id be willing to wager that you should call/go over the top of this bet. Sure, he 'could' of been calling your flop bet with hearts.... but he also could of had an incredibly wide amount of hands, and draws.

I'll say i stack off a lot in tournaments to people in these situations... but on the other hand when you call their bluff/semibluff/worse hand, and you get the big chip stack, you can run the table. I'd call.

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12-12-2008 , 08:59 AM

zedveron

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i would expect them to raise the flop with a set/2 pr/AJ on such a draw-heavy board, so I think we can rule those hands out, which means we are mainly concerned about hearts. People don't often slow play the turn, especially 3-handed, so i would be very surprised to see MP1 turn up with a flush, and the BTN could be betting with anything after you both check. yes sometimes we're beaten here but we're usually ahead imo.

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12-12-2008 , 01:27 PM

jchauvin

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Jesus can't believe I'm the only person folding this. Pot size bet is scary. 2 opponents. You're cooked

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12-12-2008 , 01:54 PM

tower$

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Interesting spot. 3 way i think i fold here. You've made a good bet on the flop and got 2 callers. 1 of them is drawing to the flush. Ax hearts is well within a calling range preflop. If not, maybe AJ and the turn bet is him suddenly waking up and protecting his straight. Hard to put them on a hand like that though, as 3 way a made hand would surely be raising to price out the draws? Whatever though, i think i fold.

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12-12-2008 , 02:02 PM

unrealzeal

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Yeah folding might be right but not because of BTN. Sneaky little MP might have us beat. Tough hand.

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12-12-2008 , 02:05 PM

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earck

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I'm folding, i can't imagine we are ahead here.

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12-12-2008 , 05:15 PM

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Larude

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I 'should call', because he has QJ, JT, JJ, AT, AK here a lot (with or without heart). You are only beat by AJ I think. And MP2 well he probably has a J too, I mean which hearts could he have? AhQh, QhJh? But in the 4.40 people sometimes don't play logically, they slowplay a lot even when they shouldn't, so hey I am probably beat by KTo.

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12-12-2008 , 06:14 PM

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aces_full1963

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I'm foldin here. There are too many hands or draws that beat you. Save yourself some chips and fold.

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