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03-16-2010 , 08:16 AM
This was about 3 spots away from the money bubble. I was happy to be up against UTG and MP after he flatted but when SB shoved over the top, even though it wasn't much more I thought his range was very narrow here and I would hate to be shoved on by MP if I flatted.

I wasn't really sure what to do here. Every option seems to kind of suck. What do you think?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 27.5 Tournament, 300/600 Blinds 70 Ante (6 handed)

SB (t8408)
Hero (BB) (t35020)
UTG (t5132)
MP (t20146)
CO (t14215)
Button (t59838)

Hero's M: 26.53

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, Q
UTG bets t5062 (All-In), MP calls t5062, 2 folds, SB raises to t8338 (All-In)
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03-16-2010 , 08:26 AM
too much action for KQ. gotta fold here
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03-16-2010 , 08:30 AM
I'd fold. I think the SB is fairly strong here and MP flatting for 1/4 of his stack is a little worrying.
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03-16-2010 , 08:33 AM
I'm gonna assume we're readless, so MP is either a fish with a huge range or he's being smart with a huge hand and hoping for action from a bigger stack. There's no way MP can fold if you jam here, so you'll basically be playing against him for a 32k pot that costs you 20k... obviously a huge bonus if you beat both shorties, but MP is the main concern here. You need like 60% equity vs his range for the big side pot, ignoring the main pot and smaller side pot because I cba doing the math for those.... Even if we say MP is a total drooler who's flatting JT+, any ace and any PP we're still only flipping against his range so it looks like a pretty clear fold unless I'm missing some huge equity from the two shorties, which I doubt.
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03-16-2010 , 08:33 AM
easy fold preflop.
most people flat AA KK there.
plus if you don't know that you should be folding here with kq then i believe the money from the bubble would be important to you.
no disrespect intended. also you will never make it to the river with the other big stack. and he is never folding.
and you have to worry about utgs ranges here as well. you may win the side pot against the big stack but what happens when utg shows up with AK here.
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03-16-2010 , 08:42 AM
OK, thanks guys. I did fold and pretty quickly actually. It was just after I saw their hands I thought maybe it was a mistake.

Another quick question - if MP wasn't involved in the hand, is it a call then?
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03-16-2010 , 08:59 AM
KQs is not that strong of a hand, especially with this action.
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03-16-2010 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by D1iabol1cal
OK, thanks guys. I did fold and pretty quickly actually. It was just after I saw their hands I thought maybe it was a mistake.

Another quick question - if MP wasn't involved in the hand, is it a call then?
Don't be result oriented and no its still a fold after 2 all ins.
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03-16-2010 , 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by D1iabol1cal
OK, thanks guys. I did fold and pretty quickly actually. It was just after I saw their hands I thought maybe it was a mistake.

Another quick question - if MP wasn't involved in the hand, is it a call then?
debatable not 100% sure i guess it depends on reads. i usually fold here as its guessamated that he has 17% of your stack. and i do think you would find better spots.
also if you think he shoves 66-^ here and AQ AJ A10 or any weaker ace here,KQ and KJ here i don't mind calling as much. but i am a nitt.
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03-16-2010 , 11:00 AM
winning a showdown 4 ways with KQ is hard. Save your chips to push people around with not call off with.
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