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05-12-2014 , 11:15 PM
    Poker Stars, $1.29 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #26810791

    BTN: 4,387 (87.7 bb)
    SB: 1,002 (20 bb)
    BB: 2,443 (48.9 bb)
    MP1: 945 (18.9 bb)
    Hero (MP2): 1,940 (38.8 bb)
    MP3: 1,175 (23.5 bb)
    CO: 1,608 (32.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K K
    MP1 folds, Hero raises to 150, 4 folds, BB calls 100

    Flop: (325) 2 5 T (2 players)
    BB bets 100, Hero raises to 250, BB calls 150

    Turn: (825) 9 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks

    River: (825) 7 (2 players)
    BB bets 412, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: 825 pot
    Final Board: 2 5 T 9 7
    BB mucked and won 825 (425 net)
    Hero mucked K K and lost (-400 net)



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    Tough lay down with KK Quote
    05-12-2014 , 11:17 PM
    Opponent loose passive calling station at 53/3/40
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    05-12-2014 , 11:30 PM
    I would just bet around 1/3 pot on turn and probably plan to check or bet small on river. As played I think it's an easy call. could be a T or any random crap vs a fish in a $1 game.
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    05-12-2014 , 11:32 PM
    Preflop and flop is fine but every other street is wrong. Am I missing something? This is probably the worst way to play KK. I don't get it.
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    05-12-2014 , 11:32 PM
    Huh... What is going on here...

    Flop raise is too small. I would make it at least 350.

    You have to bet the turn for value. Maybe bet smaller so this way if he reraises then you have an easy fold.

    I don't like the river to be honest. He's passive pre flop, but you should be looking at he's aggression post flop and how he plays a pair. Post flop Reads help here.

    I personally call the river because he checked the turn, he might have only a Ten and the bet is not very big.
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    05-13-2014 , 12:01 AM
    I really think you are only losing to sets and 109. Click the middle button next time.
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    05-13-2014 , 01:47 AM
    Quote:
    I really think you are only losing to sets and 109. Click the middle button next time.
    What is the middle button??? He did fold...

    How do you come up with a hand like T9 and a set? He called in the BB... Theres way more hands that beat us that he could have here. I just hate to fold there, but theres definitely hands that beat us coming from a passive player. I think post flop read would be very helpful.

    Last edited by Gladiatoranc; 05-13-2014 at 01:52 AM.
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    05-13-2014 , 01:52 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gladiatoranc
    What is the middle button??? He did fold...

    How do you come up with a hand like T9 and a set? He called in the BB... Theres way more hands that beat us that he could have here. So maybe a fold on the river after all... I think post flop read would be very helpful.
    Pretty sure the middle button is call?
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    05-13-2014 , 01:55 AM
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    Pretty sure the middle button is call?
    Yeah thats what i'm thinking... so maybe he's just making fun of the guy
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    05-13-2014 , 07:50 AM
    I actually timed out on the hand, though I did go into the tank without realizing how low my actual time bank was, my only concern was a flush draw
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    05-13-2014 , 08:23 AM
    bet turn?
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    05-13-2014 , 10:52 AM
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    bet turn?
    With K hi flush draw i think we have a value bet no? I was thinking something like 1\3 to 1\2 the pot.
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    05-13-2014 , 10:56 AM
    It's $1.50, why are you not value betting the turn for 1/2 pot
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    05-13-2014 , 05:29 PM
    The flush got there on the turn vs a loose passive calling station who is more than likely to chase also if T9 & 86 got there which is not unusual at these small buy in stakes it's one of those hands either way ahead or way behind, in hindsight looking back through the hand the only real mistake I made was not putting in a bet on turn
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    05-13-2014 , 10:40 PM
    Raise more over his donk bet to give him less odds. As played then it's fine. Board is so dirty and when loose players get aggro you have to have the nuts.
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