Thoughts on play $200 buy in live tournament
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 14
$200 buy in freezeout.. 20k starting stack
Blinds 300/600 BB ante 600
Hero has 29.5k/ 18.5k is effective stacks.
EP open to 2200
LJ calls
HJ calls
Button calls
Hero calls in SB with A7cc
Flop JsQc4c
Checks to EP.
EP continuation bets 6000
Folds to Hero who jams 16300
Thoughts?
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 68,694
Well, once you get to this flop at this SPR, I'm not sure what else you can do. I don't expect you to be good here, but hopefully you hit your 9 or maybe 12 outs.
(I might not play PF to such a large raise ordinarily, like if everyone after the raiser folded to me. But once you're going to be the fifth person in the pot, you're getting a good enough price to try to flop something and go with it when you do.)
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,076
I will typically fold to an EP raise for more than 3x pre-flop when I am in the SB (and really anywhere unless I have a PP or I have AQ+). We will typically have a 30% equity vs that 1 player (often JJ/TT and sometimes AK) and because there are others and we are out of position its likely not worth it. Really the only type of hand we do well with is two pair on the flop or trip 7's. Which won't happen very frequently.
As played we have about 33% chance to win when we jam unless EP has exactly KK or KQ. I don't think EP would be betting anything like 88-TT/Jx vs 4 players. EP is never folding to our jam so its a breakeven spot. I don't particularly like it because its more or less the best case when we call pre-flop aside from just folding to a flop we don't hit. And its 33% improvement vs losing 60% of our stack so not a good place to be going all in.
Something to consider would be to just call the 6000 bet on the flop. We are getting 3:1 on the call and we have some implied odds. We would have to fold to the turn shove (unless an A comes or possibly a K or T in which case we could shove) if we miss but if we hit our flush we likely get called on the river when we bet. Or EP shoves the turn anyway given that he might think we would have shoved the flop with a flush draw.
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,934
I concur that preflop this is a fold to that raise size with these stack depths. On the flop, well that just players itself. You don't have much fold equity, but 10.3K in the pot and the player has 16K back? Let's shove and hope they have KK
