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BTN: $226.00
Hero (SB): $100.50
BB: $95.50
UTG: $199.10
CO: $119.45

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with Q A
2 folds, BTN raises to $4, Hero raises to $14, 1 fold, BTN calls $10

Flop: ($29.00) A J 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $20, BTN calls $20

Turn: ($69.00) 5 (2 players)


villain is a huge multitabling nit reg

after he flats the flop i can't imagine what we're ahead of at this point

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BB: $128.35
Hero (UTG): $112.70
MP: $36.05
CO: $99.25
BTN: $147.50
SB: $74.00

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with Q A
Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, BTN calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50) 4 3 A (2 players)
Hero bets $7, BTN raises to $21, Hero calls $14

Turn: ($51.50) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $42


villain is 14/7 over the small number of hands i have on him. havent seen anything out of him as i've only been at the table less than 30 hands

You're ahead of KQ. That's about it. You're chopping with another AQ. I feel like if you check, you are unlikely to end up folding the best hand if you have it. He takes the free card when you're ahead or chopping. He bets or checks when you're behind.

Cake,
You aren't ahead of anything in AQ hand 1 that Bets turn often. KK, QQ float as does AT (and sometimes shoves). You can't get good value from betting, so check. You aren't ahead enough to fold if he shoves, so fold.
Hand 2: I would tend to fold flop and if I called, fold turn.

The K9s hand that everyone thinks is a terrible river call - It's not a bad call against a lot of people - if his flop/turn/river aggression stats are either increasing by street or high-low-high or something weird and his won $ at showdown isn't very good, I'd call. You are getting 3 to 1.

A more specific read not based on stats would take precedence if I had one.

Normally folding is fine because there are so many believable hands that beat you.

AT, 9T, KJ, KQ


I think the turn is pretty close either way. The K hit the draw on the board that you are worried about. It's nice to build a pot against a lot of possible hands, but a fair amount of flush draws will have the Ace, and a fair amount of the time a strong made hand that will pay if you hit would have led the turn fearing a free shot at a spade for the hero.

You can probably get more value from some worse hand, but it will be hard to get 2 streets and on the river a much wider range of hands will look you up. Villain will also be likely to bluff a fairly wide range on the river as well and possibly value bet worse hands.

Maybe I'm just being a devil's advocate though.

micro- its def not a terrible call, but i still think its a fold, ppl just arent as aggressive as everyone wants to think they are. even if this guy happens to be, its a horrible river for him to bluff in general

and some random at .5/1 isnt v-betting <KX imo

HAND1

Villain is 21/15/2.7 TAG over 1,2k mined hands. For various reasons I've had to fold to post flop raises on this table a lot lately.


gladbach1336 ($101)
bondigirl ($123.63)
wovoka ($210.60)
Volodar69 ($102.40)
Firetribe ($101)
Zigauner ($112.37)

gladbach1336 posts (SB) $0.50
bondigirl posts (BB) $1

Dealt to Firetribe A T
fold, fold,
Firetribe raises to $3.50
call, fold, fold,

FLOP ($8.50) 7 T 4
Firetribe bets $6.50
Zigauner calls $6.50

TURN ($21.50) 4
Firetribe bets $14
Zigauner raises to $30
Firetribe folds



HAND2
Villain seems sane. Did I just get lucky? I feel like aba.



Harald1983 ($160.35)
Firetribe ($154.05)
seawater ($193.91)
Karmadillo ($101.50)
LesterHedrick ($216.53)
101580xu ($139.17)

Harald1983 posts (SB) $0.50
Firetribe posts (BB) $1

Dealt to Firetribe 7 8
fold, fold, fold, call, call,
Firetribe raises to $5
fold, call,

FLOP ($11) Q T 4
check,
Firetribe bets $8
Harald1983 calls $8

TURN ($27) Q
Harald1983 bets $11
Firetribe raises to $40
Harald1983 folds

SB is a nitty regular: 19/16/2.3 over 102 hands. I've never seen him check-raise.

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Hero (UTG): $157.60
MP: $39.10
CO: $164.40
BTN: $100.00
SB: $246.15
BB: $50.00

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with A A
Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($9.00) 5 T 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7, SB raises to $30, Hero calls $23

Turn: ($69.00) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $212.15 all in, Hero ???

that's some sort of ridiculousness

after his flop c/r, since you've never seen him c/r before, i would put him on flushes and sets. his shove looks like a weak flush. unfort you can do anything about that so i would fold to his turn shove. if i were better i could come up with a reason to fold the flop too, but i never do so i can't.

i guess theres a chance that he has 1 diamond and temporarily lost his mind, but i dont know

Karp in that 99 hand I probably check back the flop and see what the turn brings I would imagine you could bet/call profitbaly though

Bet the turn with K9s and fold river. You get c/red pretty rarely there and can get a ton of value and build the pot when you hit the river.

KK hand is standard bet more on the river.

Dipstikdave pretty easy fold with KK eventhough he can only really have 77 and qjs he is never bluffing

Slim three bet the flop shoving is fine small threebetting is fine you don't want a bunch of turn cards that let him fold A8 to peel off.

Karp Call with QQ and hope to win a race against AK if villians are thinking it is a really easy fold.

Bengie c/f turn. River depends on card.

I think I get it in with AQ there he can have stuff like AJ/AT untill proven otherwise.

Karp this is never a bluff but he can do it with stupid stuff like 88 I would call c/f river.

I never know how to play against donks, but it seems like he has something like 54hh or j9hh and nobody ever fold those. I would fold turn.

Slim fold turn he has a set or a crappy flush and doesn't want to see a diamond on the river.

Table 2 > Table 1 LDO

villain is 39/12/1/41

Anything wrong with this line?

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MP1 ($3.20)
MP2 ($25.85)
Hero ($31)
Button ($24.90)
SB ($9.55)
BB ($52.10)
UTG ($5.95)
UTG+1 ($28.15)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, 9.
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 3 folds, MP2 calls $1.

Flop: ($2.85) J, T, J (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $1.75, MP2 calls $1.75.

Turn: ($6.35) K (2 players)
MP2 bets $1.5, Hero raises to $6, MP2 raises to $22.85, Hero calls $16.85.

River: ($52.05) 4 (2 players)

Final Pot: $52.05

HOLY CHRIST AL

Me on river: Well even if he had a 7 I won, nice

JUST KIDDING

okerStars Game #13826575531: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/12/13 - 00:19:53 (ET)
Table 'Guangdong III' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: AlReturnsLOL ($49.30 in chips)
Seat 2: PIPER3112 ($72.15 in chips)
Seat 3: Vic3Roy ($49.50 in chips)
Seat 4: jmill2525x ($62.40 in chips)
Seat 5: afen1971 ($44.35 in chips)
Seat 6: KTO123 ($14.95 in chips)
KTO123: posts small blind $0.25
AlReturnsLOL: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jmill2525x [Qh Ah]
PIPER3112: raises $1.50 to $2
Vic3Roy: folds
jmill2525x: calls $2
afen1971: folds
KTO123: folds
AlReturnsLOL: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [Ac 7s 7h]
AlReturnsLOL: bets $3
PIPER3112: folds
jmill2525x: calls $3
*** TURN *** [Ac 7s 7h] [Qd]
AlReturnsLOL: bets $7.50
jmill2525x: raises $39.50 to $47
AlReturnsLOL: calls $36.80 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Ac 7s 7h Qd] [Qc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
AlReturnsLOL: shows [7c 7d] (four of a kind, Sevens)
jmill2525x: mucks hand
AlReturnsLOL collected $97.85 from pot
jmill2525x said, "lol"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $100.85 | Rake $3
Board [Ac 7s 7h Qd Qc]
Seat 1: AlReturnsLOL (big blind) showed [7c 7d] and won ($97.85) with four of a kind, Sevens
Seat 2: PIPER3112 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Vic3Roy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: jmill2525x mucked [Qh Ah]
Seat 5: afen1971 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: KTO123 (small blind) folded before Flop

Dr. J,
I probably bet more on the flop and turn as played standard.

Jmill,
That turn raise is really gross.

Would it be wrong just to 3bet the flop? Or are stack sizes too big?

Is this okay even if I'm only going to play made hands post flop?

Villain is 38/12... this is his first 3bet in 80 hands.


darthmaul1 ($98)
THREE3FREE ($113)
BO2A ($89.30)
cucumber88 ($20)
Firetribe ($192.85)
CrazyCallKenny ($118.50)

darthmaul1 posts (SB) $0.50
BO2A posts (BB) $1

Dealt to Firetribe As Kd
fold, fold,
Firetribe raises to $3.50
fold, call,
BO2A raises to $16
I call...

Thought process on the hand : "Durrrrrr, I has top two, shoving seems nice"

Are you trying to imply that reasoning is not aba-esque?

wow

i shall look at this.

Villain is 16/6/2.36. I haven't noticed anything unusual about him.

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BTN: $146.75
Hero (SB): $151.10
BB: $131.95
UTG: $38.50
CO: $186.60

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with K A
1 fold, CO calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, CO calls $4

Flop: ($11.00) 6 2 A (2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO calls $7

Turn: ($25.00) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $25, Hero calls $25

River: ($75.00) K (2 players)
Hero ?

Why are we checking the turn? I could understand it if we had position but... we're not controlling the pot.

Controlling the pot with a one pair hand and inducing action from weaker aces and other pairs. It now looks like I could have a pair smaller than AA. This might or might not be a good line, but it seemed right at the time.

Well we're OOP so we're not entirely controlling the pot. Are you checking because a raise on the turn would be very meh?

Wouldnt we get more value on worse aces by betting? A lot of worse aces (and the very few draws) will check behind on the turn.

I like the check on the turn, but only if we have some indication that villain will bet. I'd check/raise to a nice size that allows us to shove the river...t60-70 about right.

But I'd probably just bet 20 or so on the turn normally.

River, bet as much as a pair or lone Ace will call, I'm thinking 40 or so, but the pairs aren't going to call very often, a worse two-pair will call very often.

Cha,
Please just bet fold that turn. As played I guess I bet 60 and fold river.

Karp,
Three betting the flop is pretty bad there because we are getting crushed by his range that continues.

Jmill,
If the board was AQ72 it would be fine, but Al's bet bet range is pretty weighted towards sevens and he is folding most aces to a turn raise.