cleinen, i'd just flat, this is one of my favorite hands to see a flop with.

meh...I think all your options are fine. He probably plays bad enough you can play the hand even though ur in danger of being dominated.

I'd also flat. If I felt he would open more I would 3bet.

Ok here is the rest of it. Given I 3b is this the line I need to take once called?

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with J Q
UTG raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.55

Flop: ($1.65) 4 J T (2 players)
UTG bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

Turn: ($2.25) 3 (2 players)
UTG bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

River: ($2.85) Q (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.30, UTG raises to $7.07, Hero

fold he's got AK like 98% of the time.

Yeah, passive player c/raising river is pretty gross imo. I mean the river is basically a b/f spot imo anyway.

yea, I can't really see you being good very often when he takes this line. There's no reason for him to really think you are that weak.

I might raise the turn though. Just to get value out of draws, and cause bluff catching his $0.30 bets really isn't going to get us much. With his bets I'd be very confident my QJ was good and just hope he can call with AK, KQ, AT, 99, etc.

This makes sense and shut down to resistance since he has been fairly passive?

yea...if you raise the turn and he shoves, I just can't see it being KQ or T9...

I would have raised his flop bet and then barrel the turn, if the comes over the top of the flop raise I'm usually folding.

Thanks for the help. I am finding myself relearning things. I guess a 3yr break makes you forget things.

Yeah I wasn't sure if raising the flop wasn't a good idea as well, just kinda felt like it'd be turning our hand into a bluff, but idk, maybe raise it to .95 or so?

I'd really make it $1.40 or so. If they come over the top you don't really have to second guess about folding, but most often they either fold or call, which is both fine.
If they call they will mostly be drawing or have something like AK/Tx/66-99.
So if turn is not 9 or Q I'll keep firing close to pot on the turn.

Until I have reads if someone leads out that small I usually treat it like they checked, and so then if normally I would have checked it back I'll flat, and if normally I would have bet I'll raise.

At the micros and low limits the game has changed a ton in the last 3 years. NL10 now plays pretty similar to nl100 3 years ago.

I'm surprised that there isn't more vehemence about the flop call. I would insta raise him. If he has AJ, he's now in a tricky position and will find it hard to continue. If he has you crushed, he'll get it in and you can fold. If he calls, there are still very few hands that he can have that can continue if you barrel the turn.

I can see calling the flop to keep in some hands that we beat, but only on condition that you lead the blank turn for PSB.

As played, you have to fold the river. 2pr are almost never good here - I agree that this shove has AK written all over it.

I remember playing 200nl FR on Party, and deciding that I really should get my VPIP down to less than 30%. I felt that I would have an advantage if I was playing less than the table average ... I even remember playing 25% VPIP at 1knl singletabling, and wondering how gigabet could manage to play more than one table

If only I knew then what I know now.

if this is the case, we should not be raising at all. This isn't the type of villain that we want to be trying to bluff of better hands than QJ here. If we are raising, it should be for value, not because we have a blocker to JJ.

Villian is 16/8 of 25 hands

Full Tilt Poker $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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SB: $10.00
BB: $3.90
UTG: $14.37
MP: $11.48
CO: $15.94
Hero (BTN): $11.63

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with J J
UTG raises to $0.35, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.35, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.85) T J 8 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.50, UTG calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.85) A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.40, UTG calls $1.40

River: ($4.65) 9 (2 players)
UTG bets $4.65, Hero

sucks...but I'd fold...this QT, JQ, KQ pretty much always. I'd bet more on the flop too.

Pot the flop since its so draw heavy?

or close to it...I think they if they have given up, they are c/f for any amount. And if they are c/r, your bet sizing isn't going to influence that. I don't think you'll induce lighter calls or lighter c/r.

Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BTN: $9.53
SB: $41.88
BB: $12.85
Hero (UTG): $50.37
MP: $16.02
CO: $3.85

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with 9 T
Hero raises to $0.75, 3 folds, SB raises to $2.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($5.75) A 6 8 (2 players)
SB bets $4.00, Hero raises to $12.49, SB raises to $39.13, Hero?

Villain is TheSnowflake: regular 2+2 poster, playing as good as it gets at 10c/25c (20-50bb tables). He and I have a lot of history, and in this session we have been in a bit of a pissing contest. He's stacked me 3 times and I've stacked him once. I have a lot of respect for the fact that when he gets his money in he's generally good. He is c-betting 93%, and in fact on this flop, I expect him to be betting his whole range. Given our history (lots of 3 betting each other in this session), his range here includes KQs and mid pairs and suited connectors as well as AA, AK, AQ.

We are ludicrously deep for these tables, and to add to the psychological pressure, I'm stuck $30, and losing this hand all-in would probably make my life pretty hard for the rest of the day.

When he shoves, I'm putting him on AA, KhQh, QhJh, 66 or 88. BUT it's still an instacall yes? Would it still be an instacall if I didn't have the str8 flush draw too, ie flop was A32?

Edit: up till now I've folded all marginal hands (anything less than AQ, or QQ to his 3 bets, and he knows I've been playing very tight UTG.

why didn't you 3bet pre?

get it in. he does this with all sets and Ak with a king of hearts. Why would you flat a 3bet if not to get it in when you flop a flush?