66 hand I shove river. I really don't expect to be beat here ever. And maybe he can hero call QJ, JT, KQ, etc. It's only a min raise anyway, so he'll click call a lot.

Yeah my consideration for shoving were that he might be blockbetting me here, not to have to call off his whole stack when behind, and possibly getting some thin value, but then again I was wondering how likely that was compared to him having JJ. I agree that if he's b/c-ing those Qx type hands I lose quite some value by just calling. On the other hand, if he folds Qx and only calls with JJ I'm valuetowning myself.
Then again you're likely right about him just clicking the call button anyway.
I even find myself doing that sometime, when I was actually planning a b/f.

The bet sizing just makes me think he doesn't have JJ very often. The board isn't scary for JJ, so I'd expect him to think it was the nuts and bet accordingly.

Yeah, that's actually the most important thing I think I missed out on in the hand. If he has JJ and is going to lead he will quite possible just shove it.

Dev as played I would have bet the river the AK hand, nits dont like to fold once they catch TP type hands. I think he cant fold and is C/C small bets mode with weaker Aces here. Once he CR u you are toast

Villain is a meh laggy reg with whom I have a lot of history and who generally likes to "outplay" people, preferably IP.
He has toned it down a bit with me postflop, but he is still very aggro.

He is 21/15/5.1 over 6.1k hands.
Postflop aggression is 42/33/24. Fold to cbet 59%.

On the flop he can have a set, but I have seen him raise sets on the turn a couple of times.
Let's say you weigh his range here heavilly to FDs/43s and sometimes some air bluff with backdoor draw, how would you approach the flop and turn.

Here I had already decided to c/c 3 streets if there was no 3rd spade.

In hindsight I was wondering if either 3betting flop or c/r-ing turn were not much better, since I could get more value from his draw.

Please let me know your thoughts on this.


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UTG: $100.00
UTG+1: $137.80
UTG+2: $40.00
MP1: $265.65
Hero (MP2): $116.00
CO: $110.60
BTN: $100.00
SB: $131.40
BB: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP2 with K J
4 folds, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, BTN calls $3, 2 folds

Flop: ($7.50) K 2 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $5.00, BTN raises to $13, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($33.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $18.00, Hero calls $18

River: ($69.50) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

I don't really like to just shove it in until I think they are committed with a draw. Given on this board texture, he can't have too many big draws, I think c/c down is better than raising at any point.

His bet sizing is kinda strange, because I can't deduce any purpose from it. On the turn, it's not that big, which makes it look less like a bluff. But, it also leaves over a pot size river shove, which makes it look less than value.

Reason why I afterwards thought about raising turn was that perhaps he would make an incorrect call without the proper odds, so e.g. a raise to $48.

I think he's betting the turn like that, because it may still give him some FE while he's not charging his own draw to expensive, plus he can rep 55 looking to "lure me in".
To be honest for me that turncard was the best in the deck, since it eliminates half the sets from his range.

MP2 is nitty with 10/7 over 544 hands with 20% stealing.
CO is a tad less nitty and more aggro with 12/10/4.2 over 2.9k hands.

Perhaps silly question, but I've had a spot like this a couple of times and am note quite sure which line is best.
With QQ I'm always 3betting, but with KK/AA I was also considering flatting, since it possibly does not shut down MP2 straight away.

Thoughts?

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SB: $433.65
BB: $50.30
UTG: $112.15
UTG+1: $101.95
UTG+2: $39.95
MP1: $28.40
MP2: $111.15
CO: $145.45
Hero (BTN): $101.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with K K
4 folds, MP2 raises to $3, CO raises to $10, Hero ?

I dunno...in ssnl people will basically always tell you to 4bet this. As well as QQ. The problem I see is that you basically have no air range in this spot. So, in a spot where I have no perceived air range, i flat my entire range.

Your cold 4bet puts every worse hand in a really really tough spot. Personally, I'd fold QQ to a cold 4bet here with out some significant history.

I like the sounds of that.
You would flat AK too?

I might just fold AK honestly. Depends on how often CO 3bets and how MP2 reacts to 3bets.

I've been trying out NL Rush for the past week. Here's a short list of pros and cons. I wonder if you agree or have something to add.

Positive:

• You get to play more hands with less distraction (ie less tables)
• You can really focus on your big hands
• No table selection. Works if you're lazy.
• You often get very deep stacked vs the fish
• You can get a tad more aggro since people wont start to make a stand
• You can basically pause and start playing again very fast. This is the best feature for people with kids.

Negative:

• No table selection. I'm not the greatest player out there but I just looked for the ones that are worse.
• Lots of 3betting. Can increase variance.
• Hard to take notes since tables switch.
• No datamining.
• It's FTP. Less RB than euro sites and I have to pay taxes of my winnings.

my 2 cents.

there's also a new software for taking notes automatically, which has potential imo. it's called notecaddy, check it out in software forums.

I had the time and the means to table select at iPoker. I prefer having a position to a donk on every hand than to a random player.

I dont think this is true in a high variance game such as NLHE. Sure, winning players are more likely to have bigger stacks and sure they play longer sessions. But fish reload and play more hands per session and so they have relatively bigger stacks than in non-rush games.

Why wouldn't I? The player pool is so big that I never can have as much as sample size as I'd like to.

Yeah. Still with 27% RB and taxes I'm basically with no RB. If I remember correctly the rake at NL100 is like 7ptbb/100 and few ptbbs lower at NL200. The volume should be much, much bigger. Meh...

Thanks for the note taking tips!

Rake at rush FR is just below 5bb/100. I've played just over 80k hands this months (lol part-time poker) and have payed about 3.8k in rake.

Still don't understand your datamining comment unfortunately. Could possibly cause I'm drunk atm, but have a feeling I still wouldn't when sober..

datamining is when you import HH at tables you are not playing so you can have lots of hands and stats for most players.

Villain is 15/11/3.2 over 432 hands.
Postflop aggression is 33/16/20. Fold to cbet 45%. Raise cbet% is 9%.

In hindsight I think my 3bet on the flop is very meh.
I was also in other big pot on other table and had slightly overlooked that I opened from utg.
So my thought after his shove was that he will almost always put me on AA/KK here, which is basically the same as 66 in this spot.
I would expect him to c/c AQ on the flop here.

Thoughts?


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CO: $44.10
BTN: $40.00
SB: $70.25
BB: $100.00
Hero (UTG): $110.85
UTG+1: $146.60
UTG+2: $141.05
MP1: $144.25
MP2: $87.65

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with 6 6
Hero raises to $3, 7 folds, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) Q 6 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.00, BB raises to $12, Hero raises to $33, BB raises to $97, Hero folds

I don't think your 3bet is bad. He's not raising/folding very often. I don't see how your are getting away from this hand. 99 is obv very likely, but QQ isn't so ur only losing to exactly one hand (although he does have it a lot).

I don't think his numbers mean that his range is so tight that he always has an overset here. Why cant he have AA or KK? Those hands are more mathematically probably than sets. Can you be 100% sure he won't play AQ this way?

If his range is as tight as 99 & QQ+ only, you're 61.45%.

If you tighten his range to include only half the combinations of AA and KK, you're still 47%, which gives you more than enough pot equity to stick it in here, but I think you have to include a lot more hands than that.

I'm never folding here.

Cha, I'm quite positive he will not flat KK/AA here pf OOP.
He definitely has AQ/KQs/QJs in his flat range pf, but I don't see him turn those into a bluff by shoving. I think he would c/c those, but even if he is raising I cannot see him shove those vs my 3bet on the flop from utg position. He should really expect me have QQ+ there.

If I was in MP or late position I would snapcall his shove, but me being utg somehow seems to narrow his range to 99 or sometimes QQ, at least in my perception. I don't see how this board leaves much room for anything else.

easy snap fold to his c/r then.

this thread makes me glad to know il be sticking to sngs. cash is a brain****

MP1 is 16/5/0 over 19 hands. Postflop stats are 0/50/0, which is obv due to this hand. So he seems quite passive.

SB is 35/20/0 over 51 hands. Postflop aggression is 44/50/11.

Have to say that I wasn't too confident when MP1 flat behind on the flop.
Didn't know what to make of SBs call. When he donks the turn I'm discounting sets but put him on Ax and possibly A5/A2.
Not sure if you like my flat to his donk, but I mainly did that to see what MP1 would do.

Thoughts?


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MP2: $55.65
CO: $92.05
BTN: $107.30
SB: $81.05
BB: $100.00
UTG: $55.30
Hero (UTG+1): $101.75
UTG+2: $119.70
MP1: $103.20

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG+1 with A Q
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, MP1 calls $3, 3 folds, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($10.00) 2 5 A (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7.00, MP1 calls $7, SB calls $7

Turn: ($31.00) Q (3 players)
SB bets $16.00, Hero calls $16, MP1 raises to $56, SB raises to $71.05, Hero ?