Dudes, you are slacking. This was on page ****ing 5.

BB was very quiet -- 17/8/1.7 -- my image is actually pretty laggy.
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UTG: $140.65
Hero (MP): $193.25
CO: $5.55
BTN: $101.00
SB: $101.10
BB: $110.95

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with K Q
UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $5, 3 folds, BB calls $4, 1 fold

Flop: ($11.50) Q 9 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8, BB calls $8

Turn: ($27.50) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($27.50) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $10, --> Can I stick in a little raise for value?

If I do and then something like this happens...
Hero raises to $25, BB raises to $65, Hero...

bet the turn, can't raise vs this dude, fold to the 3bet

ATENTZIONI!

An important question especially for you, ex-stters. Now I know that you all played like 894573489573489 tables while you were grinding STTs. This is why I want to ask YOU!

1. How many tables are you playing simultaneusly (6max)?
2. How many tables did you play when you were SSNL'ers?
3. How many tables would you recommend to people like K䲰䮥n?

I read the Fees guide to Robusto where he suggests not playing more than four tables at once. I feel that I can handle more and I get bored with that few tables and start spewing/lagging. And since this is just a hobby for me for now I want to enjoy it as much I can. Then again the more and the faster I make monies the more I enjoy it.

Only 9.

10 is my usual, I'll go up to 12 if the games are good. Less if they're not good. Sometimes I play 4-6 and browse the web.

Note though that I run tighter than you probably do, currently 17/13 or so. This makes it easier to play more tables.

I dunno, 6? I didn't play 1/2 for that long.

6, more if you can handle it.

Ridiculous.

My hourly collapses with 8 tables, 7 is still profitable, but I find 6 optimum for making notes, staying interested and learning at the same time as earning.

STTs I used to play 6 on Party, 8 on Stars, I'm happy 9 tabling MTTs on Stars, but this only happens when I'm playing a bunch of sats as stocking fillers for the main tourneys.

I have gotta ask even though you might not want to answer. Or maybe you could answer and alter it for a SSNL'er.

Could you give an example of your typical open-raise ranges depending if the blinds are tight, aggressive or loose/passive. And also, there's ****loads of open-limping going on so how does your range change if one assumes that the limper is probably calling the raise?

I'm sure that there would be less variance and easier post-flop decisions if I could play tighter but I'm having hard time assigning the correct ranges PF.

UTG was new to table. Other two were loose/passive.

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Hero (SB): $231.20
BB: $100.00
UTG: $43.15
MP: $154.70
CO: $98.55
BTN: $22.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with Q A
UTG raises to $3, 1 fold, CO calls $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.50, BB calls $2

Flop: ($12.00) A 5 7 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $3, CO calls $3, Hero...

Where do I go with this from here?

Not much on UTG, BTN is 22/12/3.3 210 hands -- 3bets 6% but I haven't noticed his 3bet hands.

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SB: $18.00
Hero (BB): $144.30
UTG: $120.50
CO: $135.20
BTN: $102.70

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with Q Q
UTG raises to $3, 1 fold, BTN raises to $12, 1 fold, Hero calls $11, UTG calls $9

Flop: ($36.50) J 3 2 (3 players)
Hero...

UTG (6 max) I usually open any pair (sometimes not the small ones), AJ+, KQ, ATs, KJs. I also open QJs and JTs pretty frequently and will throw in other random hands occasionally for deception (suited aces are a good choice).

UTG+1 I add KJo, KTs, ATo.

CO I add any suited connector down to 54s, any suited ace, any broadway down to QTo. Again I'll add in other hands (especially suited one gappers like J9s) sometimes.

Button depends a ton on the players in the blind. At a minimum I add all suited one gappers. At a max, vs tight passive opps I might be raising close to 100%. It also tends to depend a fair bit on what else is going on. If I already have a big hand going on I'll probably just fold something marginal. That's the price of running a lot of tables.

Limpers tighten me up a bit but not heaps. If there was a limper, I wouldn't raise QTo in the cutoff anymore but I would probably still raise KTo. If I know the limpers will call I value showdown potential over big hand potential, e.g. I like KTo a lot more than 65s.

Mike,

The AQs I would just checkraise to like 15. I know it looks strong as hell and you're unlikely to get value, but being OOP sometimes you have to just play straightforwardly. Calling and checking the turn is offering too many cheap cards. Calling and leading turn could work, but you're not going to have much of an idea where you are in the hand and the chances of additional value are slight.

The QQ my first reaction was that I didn't like the pf call, but actually I just don't like the spot. Both other options are worse. On this flop I would lead smallish ($20) and get it in versus a raise.

Edit: Actually checkraising might be better. Meh. I dunno. I hate these hands.

Chris,

This sounds almost identical to what I've developed and I run around 22/18 which seems like quite a leap from 17/14 which is what I think you have said you average out to. My "deceptive" hands from UTG are SCs rather than suited aces. Is the difference between a 17/14 and 22/18 really all that much? Or is it maybe a function of the stakes we play where more people at your stakes are opening more frequently hence you're folding more often rather than playing a good bunch of your normal opening range?

Flop: ($12.00) A 5 7 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $3, CO calls $3, Hero raises to $15, BB folds, UTG folds, CO calls $12

Turn: ($45.00) K (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $14, Hero calls $14

River: ($73.00) J (2 players)
Hero bets $22, CO raises to $44, Hero...

Bleh. I do stupid stuff like this all the time, yet it felt OK at the time. I did raise the flop, turn seemed fairly standard, but wonder if I should be betting there. I was just afraid to be building the pot more and really just wanted to get a cheap showdown.

River was strictly a blocker and thought against this passive villain I could safely fold to a raise and he may even just call with a better hand (and I would call a bet this size anyway), but of course it's that damn min-raise every goddam time. Even so, vs this passive villain, getting >6:1, can I call? He's never bluffing, but could he be betting a worse hand?

Yes good point. Is there an answer?

You won't see that many 30/1 and 10/7 guys at 5/10 that probably accounts for the difference in your stats.

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SB: $22.60
BB: $21.15
UTG: $21
MP: $52.40
CO: $59.10
Hero (BTN): $28.20

Pre-Flop: 9 A dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, SB calls $0.75, BB folds

Flop: ($1.95) 4 5 A (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.25, SB calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.45) 3 (2 Players)
SB bets $9.50, Hero folds

SB played 92/7/0.3 over first 14 hands.

yea, ur really not beating anything. U can't really put him on random float that picked up a flush draw on the turn.

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Hero (SB): $25.10
BB: $4.25
UTG: $7.55
CO: $41.90
BTN: $6.90

Pre-Flop: A K dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, CO raises to $2, BTN folds, Hero raises to $6, BB folds, CO calls $4

Flop: ($12.25) 6 7 5 (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($12.25) 8 (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.75, Hero folds

CO is 42/25/1.5 over 35 hands and is pretty much an idiot. posted utg, minraise/called with 46o bvb.

(maybe i'm just seeing monsters under the bed cause i didn't win a single hand today)

This is fine. c/c the turn sucks b/c of how many hands still have great equity against you, like two overs and a gutter, not to mention all the made hands.

So, if you don't want to give up on this type of a board, you pretty much have to cbet it.

edit: I know it is hard to give up against guys that you know have their entire preflop raising range here when they call. But, you just have to remain patient and remember that every time they call one of your value 3bets you are making money.

There has a been a guy in my games that has been 'outplaying' me for the last couple days. He's just a c/ring moron that runs something like 28/7 pre. He just c/r like every flop. He's winning the majority of the pots against me because I can't really bet unless I want to call a c/r and two more barrels. That being said, I'm up 4.5 buyins on him. Sometimes letting them own you, let's you actually own them.

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BTN: $41.95
Hero (SB): $26.40
BB: $10
UTG: $13.10
CO: $52.10

Pre-Flop: J A dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.80, BB folds, BTN calls $1.95

Flop: ($5.85) K Q 2 (2 Players)
Hero bets $3.75, BTN calls $3.75

Turn: ($13.35) A (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($13.35) 9 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $7, Hero ???

BTN is 17/13/3 over 110 hands. So... i'm beating not a single hand in his range, right?

@Devin,
yeah your right, but today it seems like everyone is assraping me like crazy...

I'd fold this, for the reason you said.

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SB: $58
BB: $46.95
UTG: $29.40
CO: $28.35
Hero (BTN): $29.05

Pre-Flop: K Q dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, SB calls $0.75, BB folds

Flop: ($1.95) 8 8 Q (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.25, SB calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.45) T (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($4.45) 5 (2 Players)
SB bets $4.45, Hero calls $4.45

Last hand for today, lost another stack and think i'll destroy something thats worth more than 5 stacks if I keep playing...

SB is 90/3/1 (yeah, NINETY! / THREE / ONE) and basically a complete moron...
If you show weakness he will bet pot on every street with 6 high or whatever trash he has. Got some money out of him, but didn't really have a big clash with him. Called the river, cause i don't see a lot of value in raising. his range contains so much trash that he will just fold and so little that he will just call with and that's worse.

Devin, big thanks for your help so far

My standard against this guy would be to bet 3 street for value. But, if you have a history of cbeting and folding to his river bets, then I don't mind it. But, I think there is more value using that line with more marginal holdings and try to get the 3 streets with your big hands like this.

his ranges differ only slightly from mine in EP as well but Im raising a bit more in the CO/BT and limpers don't tighten my ranges unless I have a read on them, usually I will open wider depending on where they limp.

Yeah it's probably something like that. Also, as I said, I'll dump hands in marginal situations if I'm already tied up on other tables, so I don't end up playing all the hands that are in my playing range 100% of the time.

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UTG: $27.70
MP: $25.35
Hero (CO): $29.25
BTN: $27.55
SB: $12.10
BB: $67.90

Pre-Flop: J Q dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG raises to $0.85, MP folds, Hero calls $0.85, BTN calls $0.85, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.90) K Q 9 (3 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2, BTN calls $2, UTG folds

Turn: ($6.90) J (2 Players)
Hero bets $5, BTN calls $5

River: ($16.90) 6 (2 Players)
Hero bets $13, BTN raises to $19.70 and is All-In, Hero calls $6.70

BTN is 27/6 over 30 hands.