Villain is 53/5/1.7/50 but gets aggressive on later streets and I've won a big pot, doubled up earlier off him.
He floats a lot with most pieces of the flop and we are eff 155 bbs deep.


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SB: $40
BB: $436.30
Hero (UTG): $318.75
CO: $772.95
BTN: $200

Pre-Flop: K A dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $8, CO calls $8, 3 folds

Flop: ($19) 7 8 A (2 Players)
Hero bets $14, CO calls $14

Turn: ($47) K (2 Players)
Hero ? given stacks and range seems interesting spot to me. He has position which is of utmost importance in NLHE. This compensates for donkishness. Why do you take the line that you do and what is your river plan.

Hero checks, CO bets $24, Hero raises to Bet Size?


$80, CO calls $56

River: ($207) 5 (2 Players)
Hero bets $100, CO raises to $200, Hero raises to $216.75 and is All-In, CO calls $16.75

Please do not let you perception of probable results influence your post.

You can stand to go bigger on the turn, but I don't checkraise there anyway. Against these types of fish I like to let them bet. Since usually when I double barrel these guys they shove the river or bet huge when checked to, I'd make a 30ish bet on the turn, 3b if he raises, and checkraise him out of his seat on the river when he just calls.

madschientist,

because he likes to float a lot, i really like the turn cr. the size i think is pretty bad tho, i would raise to like ~110. as played, bet/call river nh.

4betting with KQo is discusting (I play 200-600nl). Against his range, 67o is of a similar % to your hand. If you must play KQo in reraised pots and you think he is getting out of line with 3betting, call and shove any pair/draw you hit. As played, fold

This is how I'd play it...but I'm really started to experiment with different lines against these guys.

I use to just see them simply as calling stations so I would look to bet-bet-bet all three streets. But some discussion with some players that know what they are doing has lead me to play a little more optimal against these type players.

Because these type players will call with any pair, overs, a gut shot or A high, they are not calling the turn often, but they love to bet when checked to. So, I like the c/r. But, I can certainly see c/c and c/shoving the river. Although, I think the latter might be a little fpsy.

Do you guys have so little STT strategy to talk about that you are now talking ring game theory in STT....lol

i would of thought bet/bet/bet would of been the best line against the type of villain described, but because he likes to float a lot, the cr is nice.

we have top 2 against an idiot lol, what's the best way to value bet ?

Honestly, I never even considered calling on the river for more than a moment. I would have called against only 1 player but I couldn't believe 2 of them are in there and neither can beat 88.

Turns out UTG flopped 2 pair and the other guy turned a set.

Thanks. As soon as I 4-bet I was pretty sure it sucked. I did fold but wasn't sure it was correct getting 2-to-1. I guess I need to play around with poker stove a bit for 3-bet and 4-bet situations.

I haven't had to play much against people that 3-bet frequently so I'm just learning how to adjust and expect to make some bad plays along the way.

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Hero (MP): $487.50
CO: $115.65
BTN: $100.00
SB: $216.60
BB: $31.40
UTG: $91.65

Pre Flop: Hero is MP with A A
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, BTN calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50) Q 7 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $9, BTN calls $9

Turn: ($27.50) J (2 players)
Hero bets $22, BTN calls $22

River: ($71.50) T (2 players)
Hero ?



vill is 17/9 over a small sample. no real reads on him. seems like weak tight fagfish

Is there a bet amount that would allow Heto to bet/fold the river?

aaarrrggghh i need to post this sorry.

Villain is 36/12/2.7 showdown monkey.

GusiLebedi ($101.40)
Villain ($110.35)
regato ($270.25)
944Turbo ($181.50)
750147778910 ($61.90)
Firetribe ($98.50)

GusiLebedi posts (SB) $0.50
G1a1us1s posts (BB) $1

Dealt to Firetribe J A
Someone call,
fold,
fold,
Firetribe raises to $4.50
fold,
Villain call from blinds,
fold

FLOP ($10.50) 3 4 8
check,
Firetribe bets $7.50
Villain calls $7.50

TURN ($25.50) J
Villain bets $20
Firetribe raises to $all-in

karp nh. also, you can call if you don't think he'll call that often with a worse hand and let him keep bluffing, but theres 2 fd's here and i'm happy to shove.

Wow I hate this spot.

I don't believe you're deep enough to b/f so I think I would try to check this down. If he bets I guess calling depends on the bet size but I would be inclined to fold since a weak/tight player is likely to check behind with the hands he could be in there with that you beat like KQ/AQ, and unlikely to bluff. (Is there really any hand he could still be in here with that's now a bluffing hand?)

Bengie, I think that river is a c/f. I can't see this type of player value betting a bare Q here. Just hope he checks behind with his busted fd

Have switched to NL cash (was going to play limit, but decided against it) from stt's, dabbling in 10NL while I acclimatise, will be moving to 25NL soon. Can't think of any specific hands, but a couple of situations that I typically have trouble with:

1) I have some garbage in the big blind in an unraised pot (say with a couple of limpers) and end up flopping top pair with no kicker. What's our usual plan (say we have an spr of 10-20)?

2) I flop something decent in position on a drawy board (normally 2 pair or a set), bet out for around the pot, have someone check/call me, then the turn card completes some kind of draw and I get check-minraised with, say, at least a pot bet left on the river if I just call it, am I just supposed to call and then think about things on the river? Not bet in the first place on the turn (usually inviting a bet on the river)?

I know these are hugely player dependent, but I'm just thinking of general concepts at the moment. [edit - I usually play full ring]

Opponent dependent stuff. Post specific hands. I think the only really straightforward easy decisions are not opponent dependent in cash.

Moving up to 100nl was such a good idea. Even though I ran bad and spewed and had to move back down to 50, I've realized the need for me to open up my game preflop. so instead of playing 15/13 I'm up to 20/18 now and tearing up 50nl atm. fun times. Will probably play another 5k hands and try 100 again.

That's kind of strange because I can't seem to get anybody to fold anything at any time lately. I've actually had to tighten up from 21/18 down to something like 17/14 and I still can't get anybody to fold. If I get 3-bet one more time my head's gonna asplode.

It's weird because I belong to a couple of coaching sites and watch the videos for 50 and 100 6-max and it seems like even though they're playing with very aggressive images their opponents are constantly folding to the pressure.

I four bet one guy 3 times in the last session I played the other day and only 5 4-bets in total the entire day. His fold to my 4bets percentage was exactly 0%.

First hand aipf my QQ>A2dd.
Second hand, bvb he flats my 4bet from the BB with ATo and shoves when I check K77 flop with 77.
Third hand, I called a semi-lag's CO raise from the btn with AA hoping to induce a squeeze from one of the two agro blinds. SB in fact squeezed, I shoved and my AA<QQ.

I'm getting huge action right now with not only my 3-bets, but my 4-bets and 5-bets. So, I've basically just shut down with the 3-betting light from the blinds and 4-bet bluffing. Hopefully they'll never notice

Edit: I think if you just continue to steal in late position, and iso raise limpers light you'll project an image that gets you lots of action in re-raised pots. (In MSNL at least)

Getting people to fold at 100nl requires that you be able to read hands decently well and know which opponents are capable of folding decent or strongish hands. Aside from cbetting and double barreling good cards I'm not actively trying to make people fold. Most of your money at 100nl and below is going to come from just betting 3 streets with top pair.

Yeah, I'm not talking about running elaborate bluffs or double and triple barreling air. Just normal preflop raises from position and the usual c-bets. I'm not winning any pots without making a hand and taking it to showdown. I guess I just need to play tighter if the tables are going to be calling so loose. (And make some hands.)

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SB: $293.25
BB: $218.00
UTG: $302.80
Hero (MP): $222.85
CO: $189.00
BTN: $185.80

Pre Flop: Hero is MP with 8 A
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, CO calls $8, 3 folds

Flop: ($19.00) 5 5 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $12, CO calls $12

Turn: ($43.00) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $28, CO calls $28

River: ($99.00) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $36, CO raises to $75, Hero folds

villain unknown, he just sat at the table.

bet on the turn is for value/protection. on the river i didnt like check/folding but i guess that's the best play here. we can't check call and have the best hand too often and the blocker bet thing still gets value from 77/66 i guess.

my plan for the river was to bet/fold. i stuck to the plan despite his gross raise size

Do you think he'll bet 66 if checked to?

He's an unknown. I typically assume unknowns are passive and not vbetting super thin or pulling river raise bluffs until I'm shown otherwise.