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Bengie, I like the way that hand is played in its entirety.

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Hero (CO): $50.00
BTN: $39.45
SB: $33.50
BB: $31.80
UTG: $54.10
MP: $38.70

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with 7 7
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) 7 K 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.50, BB calls $3.50

Turn: ($11.25) K (2 players)
BB bets $6, Hero calls $6

River: ($23.25) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $20.30 all in


No reads yet on villain other than he sat with less than a full buy-in and played several hands in his first orbit.

Should I have just shoved the turn? My thinking was he would obviously call a turn shove if he had a K, but there was a decent chance he was on a draw because a naked K will often reraise the flop, and also because his turn lead smells like a draw looking to set his price.

I figured I could flat the turn in position because not that many bad cards could come on the river and he might catch a flush or decide to bluff. I obviously don't like to see the 2 on the river.

Thoughts on my turn play and what I should do on the river...?

I really like your thinking here MadScientist - thanks for sharing.

One problem with not raising the turn is you get no more money from flush draws if they miss on the river.

MikeMcq,
I bet the turn with AK because you have the best hand like always and he can pot control a lot of his weak hands but will call with stupid **** a lot because people are bad. He can also peel the flop with Ace high, I just think its a very easy vbet tbh. As played I fold river that 1/2 pot overpot line is so huge.

BengieC,
I'd bet more on the flop so I can shove any turn with a diamond. As played for sure shove the villain is pretty lose and will fold a lot here. I expect him to have stuff like 33-88 fairly often as well has AT and stuff. He can prob even float this flop with AQ or w/e

For the JJ hand I don't 3bet pf... againt a villain with those stats its pretty bad to 3bet an UTG raiser. As played your postflop line is pretty good.

Jbrochu,
I like every street river is very close... it depends how often he bets turn with a fd because I think hes shoving this river with his whole range.

Cha, I thought a lot of villains will bluff shove the river on a missed draw.

I contemplated raising the turn but due to his stack size the only raise that would make sense would be to shove. I figured he might correctly get away from a flush draw if I shoved because he would only be getting about 2.2-to-1 with one card to come on a paired board, but maybe I gave him too much credit.

This is probably a basic situation but I'm not certain I'm playing these spots correctly OOP.


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UTG: $102.80
CO: $9.90
BTN: $68.65
SB: $131.15
Hero (BB): $112.30

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with 8 8
2 folds, BTN raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) 9 5 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($16.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($16.50) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $6, Hero calls $6

I've been playing a little tighter than normal due to the table conditions. Something like 17/15 or so.

Villain was 43/19/1 with an ATS of 40% but only over 42 hands. I saw him play a hand earlier when he called a tight players 3-bet with AQo.

My main question is preflop. I know my hand is ahead of his opening range. However, I'm pretty sure he's going to happily call with most of his range and now I have to play a difficult spot OOP. He might also 4-bet and I would have to fold.

Sometimes against a tight "fit or fold" type player I will lead out at this flop, but against a relatively passive loose player I think checking might be best. Would like to know if people thinking donking into this flop is best.

Thoughts on all streets would be appreciated.

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Button: $79.20
SB: $75.65
BB: $206.00
UTG: $60.60
CO: $50.00

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A
Hero raises to $2, CO folds, Button calls $2, SB calls $1.75, BB folds.

Flop: ($6.50) 3, J, 7 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.25, Button calls $3.25, SB calls $3.25.

Turn: ($16.25) 5 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $13.55, Button folds, SB calls $13.55.

River: ($43.35) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $43.35

Am I a donk for not betting the river here?

I play it the PF for the same reasons. I wonder if there's any value in river bet? Or if as the PF raiser villain villan make one more effort on the pot...?



I think you missed a value bet. You would had heard of him by now if you were behind. That 3 did not help him.

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SB: $49.25
BB: $50.00
UTG: $51.60
CO: $51.25
Button: $63.95

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, K
Hero calls $0.50, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.25) J, 9, 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.25, BB raises to $7.50, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $3.75


Is this an easy fold with no read?

Preflop that's a fold for me 100% of the time unless the table is 4 handed and then I'll play it but come in for a raise.

As played it's a tough spot because you might be way behind and if you're ahead its probably not by much.

thank jbrochu and hard to spell name

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CO: $44.65
Hero (BTN): $200.40
SB: $154.55
BB: $394.50
UTG: $274.90

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with J 7
2 folds, Hero raises to $8, SB calls $7, BB calls $6

Flop: ($24.00) 4 T 7 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $16, SB calls $16, BB folds

Turn: ($56.00) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $38, Hero raises to $176.40 all in


villain is a 40/10/passive type over my small sample at the table.

i think he has a lot of fd's here sometimes when he wants to be making a bluff. what is everyones thought process here, when the guy makes a donk on the turn like this.

if he's passive, even over a small sample, i give him credit for a made hand. they rarely ever bet draws, and they love to call. i would fold, as you don't beat anything he would bet here.

I can never quite tell what those 40/10 types are going to do so I generally avoid trying to bluff them off a hand. I think you're correct that flush draws are in his range when he donks (along with the made flush sometimes), but I think some medium pairs are as well and he's the type of player that will call preflop with 88 or 99 and somehow find a way to call your shove.

He could also have something like AT with the Ace of spades and he's not folding that either.


* I'll add the disclaimer that I only just started playing NL100 where straightforward play is usually prudent

Jbrochu,
That 88 hand is pretty standard, I would def 3bet sometimes.
Bengiec,
Passive guy betting there I think shoving sucks.... You are drawing to a 7 or a 4 a lot when he calls. If I were to continue I would call turn call all non spade rivers.

100nl is so swingy compared to 50nl. Also all the 17/15 tags have turned into 22/19 tags. Need to get comfortable 3betting more and playing 3bet pots. I did win a 400bb pot w/ tp2k, that was fun

Villain is 15/13 reg. He 3bets from late position 3%. Overall 3bet is 6%. Sample size is 1k hands. He knows who I am. I'm a real nit when it comes to calling 3bets OOP. I dont know if he knows this.


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janlek59540 ($134.62)
Firetribe ($108.05)
RSummanen ($93.95)
lmpulseKid ($99)

snaiman7 posts (SB) $0.50
janlek59540 posts (BB) $1

Dealt to Firetribe Js Jc
Firetribe raises to $4
fold,
lmpulseKid raises to $13
fold, fold,
Firetribe?

If I call I will be uncomfortable in almost all flops (even with an overpair).

Agree that getting comfortable with three betting and four betting sometimes light is a big part of moving up at the games today.

Bengiec, as for the J7s hand, I do stuff like that too sometimes, but I don't think it's good, here.
Basically you are trying to fold every hand that beats you (fl drws included) and only exert modest fold equity over the hands that beat you in that AT looks you up some of the time. It is hard for him to have a set here as you have a 7 and there is another 4 on the board which makes it better. But in general, I think calling here and trying to catch a bluff on a river which doesn't complete the flush is the better and lower variance play.

Ok, speaking of 3-bet and 4-bet pots.... How bad is this play and am I priced in on the river?

I've been running at 28/25/8 with an ATS of 38% (looser than normal mostly because I'm catching hands) and have about 40 hands with villain. This is the 4th time he's 3-bet my LP open. First time I had QQ but it was only his 2nd or 3rd hand at the table so I flatted and folded to his PSB on a K high dry flop.

Next 2 times I folded typical stealing hands, something like QT and T7.

Now this had comes up and it's pretty obvious he's 3-betting light. This isn't really the type of hand I want to 4-bet with but I figure to have some FE since I've mostly not played back at him.

When he shoves I don't know if it was just bad timing on my part or if he's just a sicko. I'm in pretty bad shape if he really has a big hand here but I am getting 2-to-1. If I had a SC or something I would just call.

(Devin I know, decide before I 4-bet here what I'm going to do if he shoves. )

Thoughts appreciated, especially on my 4-bet size. I'm still trying to figure that stuff out.

Villain is 24/16/3


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CO: $113.50
Hero (BTN): $104.10
SB: $101.40
BB: $164.35

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with Q K
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, BB raises to $14, Hero raises to $35, BB raises to $164.35 all in

No real reads yet except the UTG limper is a drooler. I thought about 3-betting but I didn't know anything about the BT. I figured to be playing mostly for set value OOP and if I called UTG would probably come along as well and he stacks off very light.

I'm not sure really if the UTG drooler limping here should make me more or less inclined to 3-bet an unknown BT raise.

I almost led the flop here and maybe I should have? Sort of feel like I butchered the entire hand.


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BTN: $99.00
Hero (SB): $128.30
BB: $100.10
UTG: $196.40
CO: $160.25

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with 8 8
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, BTN raises to $5, Hero calls $4.50, BB calls $4, UTG calls $4

Flop: ($20.00) 7 5 6 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($20.00) 2 (4 players)
Hero bets $14, BB calls $14, UTG calls $14, BTN folds

River: ($62.00) Q (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $25, UTG calls $25, Hero folds

I play every street exactly the same most times. Value calls - I like it.

Trivo - what's with the half pot flop bet? Bet like you mean it! Make it at least 5 on that flop vs two opponents. Potting the flop would be good. I want to get all my chips in asap here. Yes - bet the river.

BB is trying to rep Q5? I just don't get it. I mean, I usually wouldn't call a bet and a call with second pair. But, I just don't see how they both got to the river this way with a hand that bets 88. I mean 2pr, sets and straights would have raised at some point no? I guess some one could have a very carefully played 99, TT, etc. (which now thati i've typed this seems very reasonable for BB to be blocking with a hand like that now.)

but, given the price and the way the hand played, I think you can call here.