Mike - of course it'd be nice if you had some read on how he plays very strong hands, but against very erratic opponents here you should call, but realize you're no lock or anything. Many players who fit that general description will not only be bluffing here a fair amount, but they will often be betting Ax. They will often build a huge stack because people think they are always FOS and call them with 66.

I think there's a fair chance he has a Q too with the underbet on the turn and then overbet on the river.

Timing might help here too.

Seriously try your best to get as good of a read as you can on people that routinely get involved in a lot of big pots.

Turn confuses me, hmm...

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CO: $144.70
Hero (BTN): $419.00
SB: $198.00
BB: $192.40
UTG: $630.15

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with 7 5
UTG raises to $8, 1 fold, Hero calls $8, 2 folds

Flop: ($19.00) 3 2 K (2 players)
UTG bets $14, Hero calls $14

Turn: ($47.00) 7 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $31, UTG raises to $130, Hero ?

Mike bet turn
Kleath,
I probably just check turn as played.... hmmm call. Soul read on river. you can call on blanks prob sometimes, reads?

Nothing really, he seemed TAG to me hadnt seen alot happen from him.

Kleath,
Just check turn the thin gis he's not rly going to fold 88+ often if ever and if you get c/r it rly sucks.

villain was 81/23/1/95 hands

villain was very aggressive against me all game. How should I play this draw? I bet river hoping he missed his draw...

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SB ($24.75)
Hero ($32.05)
UTG ($47.55)
MP1 ($23.15)
MP2 ($13.50)
CO ($9.65)
Button ($9.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, 6.
UTG raises to $0.5, MP1 calls $0.50, 3 folds, SB calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.25.

Flop: ($2) 3, 8, T (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.5, UTG calls $1.50, MP1 folds, SB folds.

Turn: ($5) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.5, UTG calls $3.50.

River: ($12) A (2 players)
Hero bets $6, UTG raises to $12, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $24

Jeckyl,
You bet river to get him to fold his misssed draw which K high is beating

villain was 14/5/3/21 hands

I thought villain could have a pocket pair. How best to play this hand?

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UTG+1 ($24.40)
Hero ($24.50)
MP2 ($64.10)
MP3 ($21.45)
CO ($10.50)
Button ($12.30)
SB ($13.45)
BB ($24.65)
UTG ($21.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T, T.
2 folds, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, MP3 calls $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, 2 folds.

Flop: ($3.35) K, 4, 4 (3 players)
Hero bets $2.25, MP3 folds, Button raises to $5.25, Hero calls $3.

Turn: ($13.85) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $6.05 (All-In), Hero calls $6.05.

River: ($0) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $25.95

I just spewed this hand. The small $2 bet looked like a blocking bet. My river shove was just a hope that he had nothing, but I had invested so much wasn't sure I could fold. If I checked I was pretty sure he would bet. Actually, I guess I should have folded to flop raise...

villain was 22/11/2/45 hands

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UTG+1 ($32.85)
MP1 ($4.65)
MP2 ($6.50)
MP3 ($33.65)
CO ($12.75)
Button ($17.50)
SB ($12.20)
Hero ($27.40)
UTG ($24.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, A.
UTG raises to $0.75, 7 folds, Hero raises to $2.5, UTG calls $1.75.

Flop: ($5.10) 6, Q, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.5, UTG raises to $7, Hero calls $3.50.

Turn: ($19.10) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $2, Hero raises to $7, UTG calls $5.

River: ($33.10) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $10.9 (All-In), UTG calls $8.25 (All-In).

Final Pot: $49.60

Not sure what you mean? I doubt K high beats anything but a missed draw/bluff?

Why not bet the turn?

I would just fold pf. UTG bet is often strong, and you're oop post flop. You also don't really have odds to call pf

Fold flop but if you see the turn like that just check shove turn.

You just said you bet to fold out the missed draws but you have showdown value vs the missed draws that fold, thats what he's saying.


Im OTB and we're 200bbs deep

Jeckyl,
Fold or shove flop with AK once you get to the turn I probably open shove or check.... once he bets 2 its a very easy call he's not folding. If you are going to c/r its a pretty clear crai.
The TT hand w/e getting it in is prob fine.

after playing a good bit of 5/10 and a little 10/20, i think playing either game exclusively with less than 40 buyins is insane. depends a lot on your table selection at that level i think.

goddamn, please teach me.

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Hero (SB): $218.50
BB: $17.20
UTG: $106.00
MP: $150.05
CO: $109.20
BTN: $198.55

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with A K
2 folds, CO raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero raises to $14, 1 fold, CO calls $10

Flop: ($29.00) 2 9 T (2 players)
Hero bets $19, CO calls $19

Turn: ($67.00) J (2 players)
Hero ?

i only have 73 hands on vill at this point but he is running around 27/26/4. i thought he was showing a lot of strength after he flats the flop. i don't think he's folding very often to a double barrel here, so we gotta go by outs right?

I usually fold the flop. On the turn your raise is terrible. It's too small to fold anything, and you now have the nut flush draw and are getting 10:1 with possibly clean overs.

I could totally see 40+ being necessary for 5/10 and 10/20. I still think 100 buyins is too much for those levels unless you really need that much to have peace of mind

FD, what ever happened with your prop bet with Acemanhattan over whether you could keep banking the big monies? Just curious.

he declined to book anything when i PMed him

I think rarely both your overs are live, on average I would say adjusting your 6 overs outs to 3 would accurate for when you are against someone who has a pair plus a A,K or against a set. So I think you have like 15 eff outs for 30% equity not enough to call the shove 76 into the 67 pot. You could check call a half pot bet easy though.
For you to shove, you only need a bit of fold equity. So I would ask myself how often he lays down AT here or a mid or little pp and how often he has those hands. He's loose enough to float with the mid pp and in real time I would put myself on about 15 outs so I would have shoved here.
Against some one a bit tighter, I would sigh and check fold to a shove as their pf range leaves me little fold equity. In fact against a nit you will see AA, KK or a set really often with this line.

How much and what's your plan if he raises (from a minraise to bigger), and river?

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BTN: $22.50
SB: $249.70
BB: $210.00
UTG: $119.50
MP: $100.00
Hero (CO): $100.00

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with J J
UTG raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero raises to $14, 3 folds, UTG calls $11

Flop: ($29.50) 5 2 T (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($29.50) 4 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $20, UTG calls $20

River: ($69.50) 8 (2 players)
UTG bets $24, Hero calls $24


villain is 18/11/1 over 200 hands

i just 3bet him and he min 4bet me i folded AQ.
i checked the flop cus i thought he was doing something ******ed with QQ+ or something and trying to **** me. after he checked the turn to me i decided that im ahead and it's time to bet.

his donk on the river is frightful for his hand all i can think of is sometype of blocker bet or a flush, so not much value in raising.

what's everyones thoughts on these spots where villain is definitely capable of just flatting AA/KK PF and we flop a smallish overpair?

I dont understand why Mike should bet the turn. If the player is aggressive wont betting on the A turn scare away almost all the hands that we get value from by inducing a bet by checking?