Stone bubble spot, live 1k, 2000 person field - Page 2 - MTT Poker Strategy

We post 25% of our stack on the next hand if we are still in the MTT. We are already on life support. At this point, take the min-cash.

I guess I don't see the utility of 1.5 BBs in this spot and there is a non-zero chance that V does fold here. At least I'm trying to allow V to make a mistake here.

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03-21-2023 , 07:14 PM

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nath

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Originally Posted by Beachman42

We post 25% of our stack on the next hand if we are still in the MTT.

No we don't, we pay the BB before the SB.

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Originally Posted by jpgiro

1. If the BB calls optimally, KQo is a somewhat profitable, albeit not slam dunk jam.

2. If the BB calls too infrequently, KQo is a very profitable jam.

3. If the BB calls too frequently, KQo becomes a fold.

This is the answer. I'm folding KQo in a lot of situations on the bubble but with only one person left to get through I'm not as worried about running into something.

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Originally Posted by jcsmitty22

Also, one thing no one has mentioned is that as chipleader/table captain he should want to fold and keep me alive so he can continue to steamroll the bubble like he was doing. In my mind, the fact that he is young and aggressive makes it more likely that he knows this strategy and will not be spitecalling me with a wide range.

I think your reasoning here is sound. Unfortunate that this guy decided he'd rather spite call on the bubble than use his chip lead to run it over.

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03-21-2023 , 08:24 PM

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Jkpoker10

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Originally Posted by oldsilver

live event with 3000 runners and every chance you’ll be called (let alone spite called?) with any pp and any Ax ?

KQo is a fold pre and imho it’s not close

Min raising is super exploitable by the BB and it sounds like you’ve got some aggro live dynamic here to boot. Love the volleyball analogy.

You’re virtually guaranteed to cash and give your investor a return. Investors have this habit of forgetting the amount and remembering the fact they cashed, especially if they’re part time and not running a stable.

Ha finally someone agrees with me. I think it’s goofy to rip here and not lock up the min cash. Go back to your normal shove style when the bubble bursts. I just think it’s super spewy to lose out on $2k cash bc you can’t fold a hand. Sure it’s +ev chip wise but tournaments are about cashing and hopefully winning more often than the average player will (if a 600 player pool, maybe you win the tournament 2-3 times if you play it 600 times bc of a skill edge).

I would just feel like a clown for dusting off a min cash stack right on the bubble when you can literally wait 2-3 hands and wait for others to bust.

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03-22-2023 , 12:58 PM

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persianpunisher

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Originally Posted by EggsMcBluffin

I don't have a quantitative answer but qualitatively:

I believe other competitors will make mistakes gambling too frequently with similar stacks and so the most expedient way to gain EV, in my opinion, is to err on the side of tightness.
The smaller the field the wider I push
Not deducing a push or fold strategy; think you still get to find limps
Agree completely that you serve up chips on a silver platter with a raise to 2-2.25bb
I think people are ignoring tactical considerations and only considering strategy; there's an important tactic that hasn't been mentioned

In this particular spot I'd fold everything except AA. Am I totally sure that's correct? Nope

This was my exact thought. We've essentially locked up a min cash and any amount of gambling to pick up some small amount of EV feels like it's just a punt. And we aren't going to massively increase our chances of winning by doubling up now. Our #1 goal is to cash at this point.

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