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Squeeze spot with A-10o thoughts? Squeeze spot with A-10o thoughts?

11-12-2023 , 06:29 PM
Hey all, have a hand from a 1k live event i want to ask about. ok so I have 18k after starting with 30k so bad day. Its 200/400 level with a 400bba.

Ok ep is a younger guy that seems active and competent who opens to 1k. He seems kinda like a fish after talking about firing bullets at tourny- I assume hes ok but probably bad but still opening wide enough. Goes flat, cu flat, button flat, and I'm in sb with A-10o. I'm like wow this spot is juicy- if opener is light this gets through a ton most likely.

Ok I make it 5k- sizing idk might be bad- maybe 5.5k-6k is better bc we want folds. I felt it was super awkard sizing with 18k or maybe a tad more like 18.2-18.4k to start hand. Maybe a rip is just right play?

Ok so cu calls- hes an old passive guy i think ive seen before. Hes really bad IMO i can tell. button is a younger kid. He also seems bad- he has open limped a few time and just got a punt with kk against Q3 in a spot where Q3 4bet and called a jam lmao. first level of a 1k i was like wow wtf for heaps of bbs.

Flop is 783 with two hearts (my hand is black suits). I elect to just sigh rip 13k into 17.8k . cu folds quick and button calls with 9-10hh. we bink ace on river and win. He starts to bitch about how you cant win ahead at jack cleveland. I'm like bro- you should just muck pre bc you are way behind of even my light squeeze range. Am i wrong that flat with 9-10hh is just lolbad? Idk i started hand with 40bb, dont think 9-10hh has much value against a shorter stack. Is my play ok also? I think the flop jam is meh but i think it works enough where i gotta do it. 2 overs, get a lot of folds from hands with equity like kq or kj.


I think squeeze is great here but sizing needs to be bigger and maybe just allin. If i make it 5.5-6.5k per se, 33% of my stack is in pot so maybe just AI. I didn't expect to get 2 flats from cu and button as they tend to have meh ranges when flatting behind in this spot.

BTW as a side note- I busted this bullet and fired a 2nd shortly after in a 1k. Have a hilarious hand to post that was annoying. ok 30k starting stack at 600 bb level.

Greg raymer opens to 1300, some mawg flats from mp, i have AA on button and make it 5k. Raymer 4! to 21k and flat jams. I call raymer calls. Raymer has QQ, other guy has KK. Q on flop haha. So annoying but it is what it is. Thought i was going to get a nice stack early in massive cooler but nope poker gods say not today sir.

Craziest part, guy with kk knocked over a 2 of hearts thatw as going to me so i got an extra card which led to AA. Once raymer 4! to 21k, i knew it was going to be a cooler haha bc hes super nitty. I still don't know why people make it 1300, i say make it min for 1200 but thats just me lol. I felt the flat with KK was kinda bad also especially against raymer bc raymer is opening tight most likely from ep. If KK 3! i prolly flat 3! bc a 4! would look insanely strong
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11-12-2023 , 06:48 PM
I'm pretty sure the villain in hand 1 was referring to being ahead on the flop, not preflop, having flopped the world and you donkbetting your a high.

Aa,Kk, qq- nothing you can do.
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11-12-2023 , 06:49 PM
Ripping it in is probably better given the amount of money in the pot and to prevent hands with strong equity from coming along. I mean, you don't feel it's too likely anyone has a stronger hand-- obviously that would be bad-- but by ripping you can maybe get hands with good equity against you like KQs and 88 to fold rather than taking a flop or 4-bet jamming.
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11-12-2023 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
I'm pretty sure the villain in hand 1 was referring to being ahead on the flop, not preflop, having flopped the world and you donkbetting your a high.

Aa,Kk, qq- nothing you can do.
yea i know he had me smashed in equity on flop. I thought call pre by him was terrible. idk such a high variance spewy play. Some of the players were ripping on me saying high variance as a joke used against me after i 3! A-10o as a 3/fold later in tourny saying it was a high variance 3 bet. I'm like huh its a standard 3!/fold on button.
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11-12-2023 , 07:01 PM
My sizing if i was 3-betting from the SB would be 6k which would be roughly 33% effective stack which would have to be a jam for me. I might make it 5.5k or 5.75k though in this case so there is room to fold if UTG jams and still jam the flop even with only 1 caller (with like a pot sized bet).

As played the jam is risky because it is likely one of the two callers has a pair which could be 99 or a set. But really so what. Its not even a pot sized bet so it looks just like a value bet. Worked out well.

I used to 3-bet all the time with ATo as part of my bluffing range but I have stopped doing that mostly because though it does block AK/AQ/AJ type openings it is vulnerable to those hands and TT+. I prefer AJo now which isn't totally a bluff but is less vulnerable to hands like TT. Still if you think UTG is wide and the callers will fold then its OK.

Funny thing about the Raymer hand is I was in a similar spot with AA vs Raymer. It was a Senior event at Binions and I was on his left. He opened basically UTG and I 3-bet. A guy who had been 3-betting a lot hesitated and folded and Raymer folded. I realized I had messed up and should have called so the squeezer would squeeze and Raymer with a hand like AJ would have jammed. But he clearly didn't have QQ and he might have folded if the squeezer had raised anyway. So I like the KK play.
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11-12-2023 , 08:00 PM
Btw, Raymer posted about your hand on his X feed.
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11-13-2023 , 05:40 PM
I love the 3 bet squeeze pre with AT (debatable whether it's better to shove or 3 bet to a size like you did). I think this is a good spot to pick up a lot of chips. The shove on the low board is pretty much mandatory. If these players are going to be calling so wide, you have to just be sticking to get them to fold. Occasionally one of them will hit a set or have a lot of equity with a hand that they should have folded preflop. I would also expect you to make the same play with AK/AQ, etc.

I don't think you can have a 3 bet fold range though with your stack size.
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11-13-2023 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PhatPots
I love the 3 bet squeeze pre with AT (debatable whether it's better to shove or 3 bet to a size like you did). I think this is a good spot to pick up a lot of chips. The shove on the low board is pretty much mandatory. If these players are going to be calling so wide, you have to just be sticking to get them to fold. Occasionally one of them will hit a set or have a lot of equity with a hand that they should have folded preflop. I would also expect you to make the same play with AK/AQ, etc.

I don't think you can have a 3 bet fold range though with your stack size.
Haha I love this squeeze spot also. The guy that opened- it was like a slam dunk squeeze bc I felt he could be light or opening proper hands that some nuttier players might not open from EP. The calls behind felt super weak- I felt older man could flat like AK or AQ maybe and call off but not sure honestly and maybe we get folds from AQ if player is really meh especially post when we rip.

Am I crazy to say JQhh is not a flat behind by button? I thought it was a marginal call as even my squeeze range is prolly doing very well against that hand and I’m shorter at 40bb while others have more like 100ish bbs. My only qualm with hand is maybe I should just rip pre and get all folds pre- I felt going 2 way to a flop- I gotta jam but it’s kinda dicey spot where we pray for folds. I’m doing same thing prolly with jj-aa however I’m prolly sizing down to exploit with jj+ to get a call and set up simple turn shove
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