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01-07-2024 , 02:53 AM
Hey all, just had a deep run in a $400 tourny at borgata. Got 2 spots.

Ok I don’t know exact details as I just finished after a 13+ hr day but will try to give crucial details.

I might have 20-25bb. Ok mp opens to 130k at 60k level. I make it 270k with AA from sb. He calls. He is a regular I know from my home are- I don’t think he likes me and thinks I’m a punk haha. We have slight history.

He has 30bb maybe?. Average is 20-22 bbs prolly and 3-4 tables left. Ok flop 225 black. Ssc. I cbet 1/5 pot and he calls. Turn 7. 2 black flush draws and I have one blocker black ace per se. I check and he bets 240k so maybe 1/4th pot. I elect to rip which is prolly spazzy and he folds after a while. I think if he has overpair to board he snap calls. Do I just flat turn and call all river bets- I say yes that is prolly more profitable. I felt my turn check is great but prolly need to call turn and check river and let him spazz. He’s not overly aggro so I didn’t think he would bluff river honestly.

He said after hand if I jam pre- I get a double sigh. I assume he had AQ or AK honestly. I like my turn check but the turn rip is prolly overkill. Only getting called in cooler situations when he has overpair to board. Would you ever bet flop and turn here? I feel turn bet looks strong and I look like I have AQ or AK if I check turn kinda. Maybe I just bet turn for a 50-70% pot sized river shove? I don’t think I get called based on how hand played out but still maybe a consideration.

H2- this one I think is easy. I have 12 bb from button and open to 2x with A9cc. Sb rips 13bb and I snap call after bb folds. He has KQo and we lose. All good! Flop was like AKQ sigh. Gg. Do you like this induce min raise? Both blinds were short so I’m like they are ripping or folding so I think not open jamming is smart play to induce. I don’t want folds with strong hand. I’m fine with my play- I think when we jam- we allow pipped hands to fold while our min open gives an illusion of FE as 17 left. All in all- I ran so well today but just didn’t finish

Sadly cashed for 2.2k when 88k was up top. I felt it I ran a little purer late, I was a big fav over the field remaining but it was tough bc avg stack hovered around 20-25bb end stages due to turbo esque structure so was hard to make moves per se like double or triple barrel if not enough chips and not against someone with a big stack also. Thanks for any input. H1 I feel I will get scolded on here.
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01-07-2024 , 11:31 AM
H1 Your 3b size is awfully small. I understand your intention but I just think a non all in 3b here is so nutted anyways that you can go a little bigger say a clean 350k. From there IÂ’m looking to get it in over two or three streets. The turn check is cheeky being that this is a bone dry board for a 3b pot. I kinda like it but the c/r is super hard to balance as youÂ’ve noted. Not too concerned with balance at these stakes tho so that probably doesnÂ’t matter.

H2 I like the min open to induce. Open jamming is fine of course but the min open is going to keep in dominated hands that we can double up through with post flop play. For example bb calls and it comes 9 high. Surely we will double through T9, J9 etc. Well played, bad runout.
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01-07-2024 , 11:35 AM
One more hand-

Deep 4 tables left. I have 15-25 bb. Bb has 10b-12bb I think. He’s a good aggro Asian player with very good mtts results- I’ve seen him before and hes very solid and aggro. I think his Hendon is impressive so I assume he’s a very good player.

I have A8o in sb. I elect to jam. He’s in bb and folds. You ever complete from sb and let him spazz? In theory I think that is best here bc I think he over goes wild and rips more than standard player in this spot against a sb complete. Are you ok with my jam
Or just complete and let him go crazy?

I normally play a limp strat from sb Vs bb even with strong Ax Kx hands so I have more re raises per se when deeper. I like limp strat more than a raise most value to 3.5-4x oop from sb. I also like to keep some weak hands in sb complete range so we can try and induce some spazz when we do complete stronger hands against certain villians that may be more aggro/ loose. I think limp Rejams with say 15-25 bb is great in sb Vs bb during late game especially when you think bb isn’t going to be super nitty.
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01-07-2024 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jkpoker10
One more hand-

Deep 4 tables left. I have 15-25 bb. Bb has 10b-12bb I think. He’s a good aggro Asian player with very good mtts results- I’ve seen him before and hes very solid and aggro. I think his Hendon is impressive so I assume he’s a very good player.

I have A8o in sb. I elect to jam. He’s in bb and folds. You ever complete from sb and let him spazz? In theory I think that is best here bc I think he over goes wild and rips more than standard player in this spot against a sb complete. Are you ok with my jam
Or just complete and let him go crazy?

I normally play a limp strat from sb Vs bb even with strong Ax Kx hands so I have more re raises per se when deeper. I like limp strat more than a raise most value to 3.5-4x oop from sb. I also like to keep some weak hands in sb complete range so we can try and induce some spazz when we do complete stronger hands against certain villians that may be more aggro/ loose. I think limp Rejams with say 15-25 bb is great in sb Vs bb during late game especially when you think bb isn’t going to be super nitty.
I don’t think A8 is strong enough to trap with. I understand the limp strat but here you’re talking about trapping. I think we want to dominate a few more hands to start thinking about limp calling a jam. Maybe like AJ+, TT+
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01-07-2024 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ralphykid67
I don’t think A8 is strong enough to trap with. I understand the limp strat but here you’re talking about trapping. I think we want to dominate a few more hands to start thinking about limp calling a jam. Maybe like AJ+, TT+
Hey thanks for the hand feedback. You have posted some really good stuff in my 2 posts on recent tournies! Thanks. Yea I feel he might check back to some weak stuff and make my life miserable when I get a bad board post.

My limp strat is to bet 1 bb on almost all flops when i complete from sb. On most boards tag have say Kxx or Axxx Qxx I will always lead 1 bb. I only check say 267 etc types that favor a bb check back preflop. I feel a complete strat is really good in live mtts bc we get into dicey spots if we make it 3.5x and have to x flops we don’t hit. I also like to sometimes raise super bottom of range that won’t win with a complete most likely. Say 57o or 46o I sometimes raise with intention to shutdown post. Like to throw top and bottom of hands for a raise to kinda balance
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01-07-2024 , 12:36 PM
H1: The smallest raise I would make here is 3x or 390k. Then I would do a 390k on the flop though you could do like 300k or even 260k to make it look like a hesitation. If I had 20 bb's I would just jam though pre-flop and hope for a call. With 25 bb's I would not jam. I don't like pre-flop jam to be more than 10x the original bet (so 21 bb's here). I wish I had played AA as well as you though. I was in the $1,600 Venetian Day 1C yesterday and folds to SB who raises to 1300 (we are at 300/500) and I make it 3900 he calls. SB is super bad and limp opens a lot preflop though to be honest so did 4 other players which I have never seen ever at these kind of stakes. In fact in Prague I never saw that at all even at a $45 tourney I accidentally played. Flop is K99 check I bet 3900 he calls with about 9000 left. There are 2 hearts on the board. Turn is 3 not a heart he checks and I jam because he can have a K and if he has a flush draw or a gutter I didn't want to give him a free card but he folded. I kind of wish I had checked the turn and see if he jams the river with like 44-77.

H2: At first I thought you should jam but I do think you get some Ax where x<9 jamming whereas if you jam they will fold. Still I don't like playing A9s post flop even though we are in position against hands like JTo where we are going to cbet and lose 40% of the time. I would have jammed and KQ might fold. I did fold yesterday after min raising with 16 blinds with KQo and a guy jammed.

H3: I like your jam. Playing OOP with A8o sucks. And you are way ahead of most of his range. I probably limp jam AJ+ (though to be fair I have lost with AJ a few times and succeeded zero times but it is early yet).
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01-07-2024 , 12:42 PM
Another note on H3. If you limp his only raise size is all in. That’s why I think we need a stronger trapping range. Especially since it’s about half our stack in a crucial stage of the tourney. If we limp and he rips are we happy to see something like QT? Not really. That’s a flip that will cripple our stack utility if we lose.
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01-07-2024 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ralphykid67
H1 Your 3b size is awfully small. I understand your intention but I just think a non all in 3b here is so nutted anyways that you can go a little bigger say a clean 350k. From there IÂ’m looking to get it in over two or three streets. The turn check is cheeky being that this is a bone dry board for a 3b pot. I kinda like it but the c/r is super hard to balance as youÂ’ve noted. Not too concerned with balance at these stakes tho so that probably doesnÂ’t matter.

H2 I like the min open to induce. Open jamming is fine of course but the min open is going to keep in dominated hands that we can double up through with post flop play. For example bb calls and it comes 9 high. Surely we will double through T9, J9 etc. Well played, bad runout.
With my 3 bet- I want to give the illusion of some sort of ability to fold to a 4! Rip. I know sb 3! From sb is super underbluffed or light but I felt small sizing gave him room to call- I want him to call and don’t want a fold. I’m feel I could have went 2.5-3x his sizing out of position Bs that would prolly get same response. Maybe 2.8x is better bc he prolly isn’t folding unless stone bottom of an opening range. In game I think I need to call turn bet and check river to induce spew. If he had AQ or KQ per se and say river is a K or Q, I think he rips to a check.
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01-07-2024 , 12:54 PM
H1 - I'd just call - think raising with your stack size is unbalanced, although you can argue otherwise if you have history. Not sure why you're checking the turn - he's probably checking back a high % of his range that might call another bet, and probably JJ+/AK jams it pre or atleast QQ+/AK. Would definitely go for another bet OTT.
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01-07-2024 , 12:57 PM
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H1 - I'd just call - think raising with your stack size is unbalanced, although you can argue otherwise if you have history. Not sure why you're checking the turn - he's probably checking back a high % of his range that might call another bet, and probably JJ+/AK jams it pre or atleast QQ+/AK. Would definitely go for another bet OTT.
I considered that but felt bb would call also and didn’t want to see a flop 3 ways. The blinds were kinda sticky passive and not going to 3! Light ever. If bb was aggro, I might consider a flat. I also think maybe I should bet turn really small and try to set up a river jam or go for over pot if need be on river
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01-07-2024 , 08:36 PM
H1 - don't think jamming pre makes sense with AA. Even with QQ/JJ I might to avoid having to play OOP with overcards on the board, but since there are almost no flops we won't like, I don't like jamming and folding out his worse stuff. I raise to ~320k. Figure he ships it OTF if he has an overpair so turn check seems fine. I guess call has more EV but he may give up river. I feel like it's hard to get full value from AQ/AK on a board like this. I can't think of any line that has a good chance of doing so.

Agree with other posters that the other 2 hands are fine.
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01-08-2024 , 04:54 AM
Hand 1 I think you need to 3-bet bigger OOP, even with AA and this short (and whether it's 20-25BB does matter how big you can go). This isn't even a 2.1x 3-bet. Not that big a deal though.

Don't care for the turn check-raise but I'm not sure why you checked either. I'd just bet/bet/shove.

Both points hold more true given what you think this guy thinks of you.

Hand 2 is fine assuming it's not an ICM-heavy spot where you don't want to get into a 60/40.
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