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02-19-2011 , 05:00 PM
Scumbags gonna scumbag.
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02-19-2011 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SMUTTTT
for real? who cares, deeb did a great job writing the alleged incident with an under the circumstances objective view on the matter.
not to forget his rep in tournament poker community makes him a great deliverer, virtually noone would would miss the thread.
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Originally Posted by Kramerica
I'm really not confident racener is any more literate than Shaun, and this is actually one of his easier to read posts. Don't really see the point in pointing this out, unless of course u are an imp fan boy (which I doubt that u r)
lol I was mostly just making fun of shaun, and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't disagree with my analysis
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02-19-2011 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Langerdang
Not saying it happened here but isn't Sorel extremely exploitable to being freerolled in situations like this.

I mean you gamble with him and if you win,you win,if you lose you cry foul and say he cheated and pretty much everyone will believe you.

I'm not saying people should be sympathetic towards him before I get jumped on lol,just an observation.
I agree. You can't get your money back for past **** because of something he might have done. Nobody should gamble with him again - to a degen that's the worst punishment there is. And this is not going to get his ftp account banned again for something that happened in a hotel and has nothing to do with them. Should ftp not let the iceman open an account because he scammed people at the bellagio? I also think it's a little silly peachymer is entitled all this privacy yet because no one likes Sorel it's ok to say on a public forum that he is on all this prescription medicine and threatened suicide, etc but w/e. He's still a scumbag.
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02-19-2011 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by threatnasty
why did mement's post get deleted?
Mement deleted it.

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Originally Posted by shaundeeb
Really don't get why you guys are bashing the messenger in this case I didn't post this for weeks because I feared some would think my bias towards sorel would cause this but I was considering him a friend I enjoyed our degening and ********ting during pca. I truely thought he changed when I was around him clearly he did not tho.
Because you have a history of breaking drama bombs to stroke your own ego under the pretense of "cleaning up the community"
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02-19-2011 , 05:04 PM
I am going to Sam's Club to buy a case of popcorn gifs...
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02-19-2011 , 05:13 PM
Lol @ ppl attacking anything Funkii has said ITT. Questioning why Deeb was writing this thread before we knew that Racener authorized it is obviously good and std procedure.

As Racener is playing FTOPS events 40, 41, and 42, we'll likely have to wait a few hours before this thread makes any significant progress
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02-19-2011 , 05:14 PM
john still has to make 2+2 account said he has too many tables asked him to make one during sync break sorel just called him as well hope he shares what was said
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02-19-2011 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by NHFunkii
lol I was mostly just making fun of shaun, and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't disagree with my analysis
well if we're just raggin on grammar skills, proceed.

Last edited by Kramerica; 02-19-2011 at 05:18 PM. Reason: grammar
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02-19-2011 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Langerdang
Not saying it happened here but isn't Sorel extremely exploitable to being freerolled in situations like this.

I mean you gamble with him and if you win,you win,if you lose you cry foul and say he cheated and pretty much everyone will believe you.

I'm not saying people should be sympathetic towards him before I get jumped on lol,just an observation.
Yh, it's pretty stupid of Sorel to play in an environment where this can happen to him imo....that is it's pretty stupid IF YOU'RE PLANNING ON PLAYING IT STRAIGHT UP?
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02-19-2011 , 05:33 PM
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02-19-2011 , 05:34 PM
oh man
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02-19-2011 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by baphomet
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Hahhaha that's awesome.
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02-19-2011 , 05:39 PM




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02-19-2011 , 05:48 PM
shaun - ur a phenomenal poker player, have a phenomenal poker mind and have accomplished more in this game that tens of thousands of others can only dream of


but seriously, "john racener doesnt have a 2p2 account, thats why im posting this"

IT TAKES 2 SECONDS TO CREATE AN ACCOUNT AND HAVE OTHER VETERAN PLAYERS CONFIRM YOUR IDENTITY

you love getting urself involved in this ****, and will take any and every opportunity to gossip monger and try and be some kind internet moralist.


while this story may or may not be true (high probability it is) i think the bigger joke is you and your OP
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02-19-2011 , 05:52 PM
pretty sure its better for all parties if shaun delivers the story and not some dui punk with 0 reputation whatsoever
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02-19-2011 , 05:53 PM
I don't doubt that JR asked SD to post this or that SD took pains to accurately convey what JR told him, but I still think it's inappropriate for John to ask someone else to post this for him. Even though we know that this is second-hand information, the tone of Shaun's post is very matter-of-fact and conveys the impression that this is something that objectively happened rather than one person's side of the story. Even if it's later corrected, getting a detail wrong in the initial post is going to influence people's perception of the situation, so the story ought to be told first-hand.

I don't understand why after weeks of waiting this has to be posted at a time when John can't be bothered to take a break from playing to make this accusation himself.

Don't get me wrong, I think this sounds bad, I think Sorel never should have been allowed to play on FTP again, and everything I've ever seen him say or do has rubbed me the wrong way. I still think there's a better way to publicly accuse a member of the community of cheating. This is really more of a "shame on John" for asking Shaun to post this on his behalf rather than a "shame on Shaun" for posting it.
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02-19-2011 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SMUTTTT
pretty sure its better for all parties if shaun delivers the story and not some dui punk with 0 reputation whatsoever
It's not like Shaun witnessed this. To the extent that JR lacks credibility, then that ought to reflect on the story. He shouldn't get to add the weight of Shaun's reputation to his story when Shaun is serving solely as a mouthpiece.
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02-19-2011 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Foucault
I don't doubt that JR asked SD to post this or that SD took pains to accurately convey what JR told him, but I still think it's inappropriate for John to ask someone else to post this for him. Even though we know that this is second-hand information, the tone of Shaun's post is very matter-of-fact and conveys the impression that this is something that objectively happened rather than one person's side of the story. Even if it's later corrected, getting a detail wrong in the initial post is going to influence people's perception of the situation, so the story ought to be told first-hand.

I don't understand why after weeks of waiting this has to be posted at a time when John can't be bothered to take a break from playing to make this accusation himself.

Don't get me wrong, I think this sounds bad, I think Sorel never should have been allowed to play on FTP again, and everything I've ever seen him say or do has rubbed me the wrong way. I still think there's a better way to publicly accuse a member of the community of cheating. This is really more of a "shame on John" for asking Shaun to post this on his behalf rather than a "shame on Shaun" for posting it.
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Originally Posted by Foucault
It's not like Shaun witnessed this. To the extent that JR lacks credibility, then that ought to reflect on the story. He shouldn't get to add the weight of Shaun's reputation to his story when Shaun is serving solely as a mouthpiece.
gr8
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02-19-2011 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SMUTTTT
pretty sure its better for all parties if shaun delivers the story and not some dui punk with 0 reputation whatsoever
uh, no
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02-19-2011 , 06:01 PM


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02-19-2011 , 06:08 PM
I'm going to bed soon, hoping there will be a juicy post from Racener/Sorel/both when I come back. What's more likely though is that this will be a 5490313 page thread with no comments from anyone involved and full of posts from people analyzing who should have done what and when and why.
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02-19-2011 , 06:09 PM
is sorel imper1um on ftp? cuz him and racener are at the same 2k ftops 2 day table but im not sure if that is his sn
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02-19-2011 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ftn_chris
hahaha my first thought reading the op was "CAUGHT A HANGER SARGE"
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02-19-2011 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by gostatego
is sorel imper1um on ftp? cuz him and racener are at the same 2k ftops 2 day table but im not sure if that is his sn
lol nice catch. That is Sorel and that is Racener... to the rail!
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02-19-2011 , 06:10 PM
Cliffs,

Shaun Deeb befriended Sorel at PCA.

Shaun Deeb Liked Sorel.

Shaun Deeb heard a CSB from a guy with a DUI.

Shaun Deeb no longer liked Sorel.

Shaun Deeb shares story with 2+2 to condemn Sorel.
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