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01-16-2021 , 05:26 PM
hello guys.I started playing sng's about two years ago but not so much.I didn't know poker before,so my boyfriend was playing and helped me get started and then i read Collin Moshman's Sit'n'Go Strategy that was really helpfull.I read articles online,saw some videos,study icm.A couple of months ago i started playing more seriously i have a new pc and i am playing about 80 sng's per day.I am playing 1$ turbo k.o. on pokerstars.What do you think is the best strategy for this sng's?Any recomendations on something else to study?Anyone knows where to find videos about micro stakes sng's?thanx
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01-17-2021 , 04:23 AM
the best strategy is start tigh and open more hands later on. i find it self really hard to find microstakes videos and also from the last year or so. idk u study with your boyfriend or with somone else. i am playing kinda same stakes and i would like to review some hands so nownand then with someone and share thougths and i find it pretty dead on forums last time so mayby u interested and we can help one and other.

one question u play fullring or 6-max
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01-17-2021 , 05:32 AM
i am playing full ring.what about you?
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01-17-2021 , 07:36 AM
i am playing FR 0,5c i am trying to get out of that stake but i had a few up and big downs. my goal is 6 max turbo and hypers. but my next step is the same game u play
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01-17-2021 , 02:47 PM
I also started at 0.5$ fr.I played about 2000 of those but i also had up and downs and didn't have good profit.I started with50$ bankroll and when it was 75$ i started to mix some 1$.When i got to 100$ i started only 1$.but the problem was that i wasn't playing so much.i used to play 20-25 sng's per day.We need volume to have more profit and increase our bankroll to move up stakes,but also a lot of studying.how about you?
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01-17-2021 , 03:15 PM
Hi, your question largely depends on the current state of your skill and previous expirience (what you know/not know etc). Your volume seems great, that will not be an issue.

Moshmans book is kind of outdated, it surely was a good starting point, however the game of SNGs has evolved a lot since.

Best current study method for yourself would, in my opinion, be ICMizer. It offers a 7 day trial version. Based on your current limits, a subscription might be a little expensive right now (although, with your good volume, still very worth it). I would recommend you to take their 7 day trial and use these days exclusively just for studying, to get the most out of those 7 days. Use the SNG Coach section of it as much as you can. Especially KO STTs can have largely different ranges than "normal" 9 mans. The SNG Coach will get you practical examples.

Other than that - next step would be to study general play, eg. Postflop play mid/deep stacked, opening/depending ranges... Etc, but for now, being good in ICM and shortstack play is most important, as it's usually where most of the money is made.
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01-17-2021 , 03:56 PM
i am using the icm trainer from pokerstategy.com its a easy tool to praktice your shove ranges and call to shove.

i found a document on scribbt that i read now maybybit helps otherwise it isnt a waste of time i think.
i try to review my hands but i find that hard because i dont know what hands are good to study and what hands are not worth to study
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01-18-2021 , 03:23 PM
ICrushSNGs22
I already have icmizer but basic so i dont have sng coach.i am paying yearly the basic it is not very expensive.I mostly study with it so its worth the money.I tag hands when i play and i review them every day before my session.But still i need improvement cause i have to adjust icm to my opponents,whith tags i can apply icmizer but with whales,maniacs or weak players i have to adjust my ranges because they dont have idea of icm.Have you ever played at this level?If yes,can you suggest any strategy that is profitable?Any effective ways to study icmizer?thanx for your help

Last edited by kohtakiev; 01-18-2021 at 03:28 PM.
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01-18-2021 , 03:28 PM
PeCPokerNL98
It's very helpfull to review all your game if you have the time or else you have to tag hands that you play and think that you could have played them differently or hands that you are not sure you did your best play and also icm spots push\fold.
As ICrushSNGs wrote ICMIZER is the best way to learn icm and you have to try it.
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01-18-2021 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kohtakiev
ICrushSNGs22
I already have icmizer but basic so i dont have sng coach.i am paying yearly the basic it is not very expensive.I mostly study with it so its worth the money.I tag hands when i play and i review them every day before my session.But still i need improvement cause i have to adjust icm to my opponents,whith tags i can apply icmizer but with whales,maniacs or weak players i have to adjust my ranges because they dont have idea of icm.Have you ever played at this level?If yes,can you suggest any strategy that is profitable?Any effective ways to study icmizer?thanx for your help
I used to play Micros a while ago, but overall the way how you play vs. Fish does not matter much (and they are in games of all buy in levels of course). Adjusting the ranges of random players will always be a hard task and you will never find the exact ranges your villains will have. So having good fundamentals is key, and having a slight idea of ranges when for example villain is far too wide. Again, no player will ever hit the exact ranges of villains (for example when you give villain a 40% calling range, they may fold T9s which they would be supposed to call, while they might call K2 which they would be supposed to fold... Etc)

Best way to study specific scenarios is to play around with the ranges of villain - if ICMizer for example gives him a 10% range then you only know what to do vs. someone who has a clue, but in these games (especially KOs, which are usually softer than normal 9mans) you will see a lot of crazy stuff - so don't just look at the exact hand and what range ICMizer gives them, but also look at your range when giving them 20%, 30%...etc
You will never play perfect ICM (no human will), but the goal is to build fundamentals as strong as possible, then you are already far ahead of the field
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01-19-2021 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ICrushSNGs22
I used to play Micros a while ago, but overall the way how you play vs. Fish does not matter much (and they are in games of all buy in levels of course). Adjusting the ranges of random players will always be a hard task and you will never find the exact ranges your villains will have. So having good fundamentals is key, and having a slight idea of ranges when for example villain is far too wide. Again, no player will ever hit the exact ranges of villains (for example when you give villain a 40% calling range, they may fold T9s which they would be supposed to call, while they might call K2 which they would be supposed to fold... Etc)

Best way to study specific scenarios is to play around with the ranges of villain - if ICMizer for example gives him a 10% range then you only know what to do vs. someone who has a clue, but in these games (especially KOs, which are usually softer than normal 9mans) you will see a lot of crazy stuff - so don't just look at the exact hand and what range ICMizer gives them, but also look at your range when giving them 20%, 30%...etc
You will never play perfect ICM (no human will), but the goal is to build fundamentals as strong as possible, then you are already far ahead of the field
thanx
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