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Old 01-06-2009, 05:37 PM   #26
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Re: Should you use max time with chip lead in MTT

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Wouldn't a good player, especially a good player with a commanding stack, want to play more hands to maximize his edge rather than stall to preserve his chips?
no because of the diminishing return on chip value. Basically as we go further in a tournament losing a chip is worse then gaining a chip, so if an hour goes by and our stack is the exact same size it was as an hour previously, then we've vastly increased the worth of our stack with 0 risk. The other people are "gaining money" by gaining chips, but at way more risk then the chips are worth. You should just stall and wait for premium hands.
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Old 01-06-2009, 05:41 PM   #27
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no because of the diminishing return on chip value. Basically as we go further in a tournament losing a chip is worse then gaining a chip, so if an hour goes by and our stack is the exact same size it was as an hour previously, then we've vastly increased the worth of our stack with 0 risk. The other people are "gaining money" by gaining chips, but at way more risk then the chips are worth. You should just stall and wait for premium hands.
Dammmit mastr now im confused cause that made some sense

If ur leveling please stop now ..K thanks
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Old 01-06-2009, 05:41 PM   #28
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Re: Should you use max time with chip lead in MTT

i think we should move up to where they respect our stalling
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Old 01-06-2009, 05:47 PM   #29
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Re: Should you use max time with chip lead in MTT

jesus christ, this idiot at my 3r table is literally timing out every hand telling us that stalling is helping us because we're "advancing", and he's counting down places until the money bubble

i think it might be OP
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Old 01-06-2009, 05:57 PM   #30
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Re: Should you use max time with chip lead in MTT

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There is no good reason to stall, except maybe the bubble of a satellite with an extremely short stack.
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Wouldn't a good player, especially a good player with a commanding stack, want to play more hands to maximize his edge rather than stall to preserve his chips?
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no because of the diminishing return on chip value. Basically as we go further in a tournament losing a chip is worse then gaining a chip, so if an hour goes by and our stack is the exact same size it was as an hour previously, then we've vastly increased the worth of our stack with 0 risk. The other people are "gaining money" by gaining chips, but at way more risk then the chips are worth. You should just stall and wait for premium hands.
rofl only if you're WAY worse than everyone at the table,because even if you're about average vs/ the field/your table you can pick up chips easier with a big stack. not bad though you at least made me reconsider for a few secs

I might stall if I degen off my roll in the 5K FTOPS but anything below that my ego will refuse to let me believe I don't have an edge
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Old 01-06-2009, 05:58 PM   #31
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jesus christ, this idiot at my 3r table is literally timing out every hand telling us that stalling is helping us because we're "advancing", and he's counting down places until the money bubble
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:09 PM   #32
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Re: Should you use max time with chip lead in MTT

we got 6 hands last blind level.
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i am ****ing livid right now



now this ****tard is telling me that he's doing it because "he thinks" and the rest of us "can't think"
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:12 PM   #33
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THANK THE LORD A ****ING TABLE REDRAW

ok enough of that
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:25 PM   #34
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:36 PM   #35
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:41 PM   #36
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So, to players who win: Hands/hours, don't stall.

To OP: Stall for the love of god or you will only lose faster.
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:42 PM   #37
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:50 PM   #38
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Old 01-06-2009, 07:33 PM   #39
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Old 01-06-2009, 07:35 PM   #40
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Old 01-06-2009, 07:42 PM   #41
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Is it a coincidence that the person who takes more time per hand than anyone on the planet was the CardPlayer Player of the Year last year? I think not.
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Old 01-06-2009, 10:15 PM   #42
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Old 01-07-2009, 03:31 AM   #43
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Re: Should you use max time with chip lead in MTT

Only during Hand for hand.
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Old 01-07-2009, 05:07 PM   #44
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Re: Should you use max time with chip lead in MTT

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Wouldn't a good player, especially a good player with a commanding stack, want to play more hands to maximize his edge rather than stall to preserve his chips?

These were my exact thoughts
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Old 01-07-2009, 05:12 PM   #45
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Is it a coincidence that the person who takes more time per hand than anyone on the planet was the CardPlayer Player of the Year last year? I think not.
well played.
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Old 01-07-2009, 05:19 PM   #46
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Re: Should you use max time with chip lead in MTT

why would you want to take the max. time? you want to knock people out quick...
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Old 01-07-2009, 07:05 PM   #47
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good to see the levelling continue due to this bump
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Old 01-07-2009, 07:11 PM   #48
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Re: Should you use max time with chip lead in MTT

No way you can throw a ball 100 yards straight up in the air.
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:10 PM   #49
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Re: Should you use max time with chip lead in MTT

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There is no good reason to stall, except maybe the bubble of a satellite with an extremely short stack.
I can easily come up with more valid, if unpopular, places to do so.
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:12 PM   #50
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No way you can throw a ball 100 yards straight up in the air.
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