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Originally Posted by angel zera
I am, however, quite curious as to the stack depth at which we're supposed to be shoving here. It's a bizarre spot, because if villain just ripped it pre we'd be somewhat hard pressed to find the fold button, no? I can't say I would've called in game, but if he had, say, 15bb and jammed, I'm never folding. Also, at what stack depths are we always ripping over his limp? For an extreme example, if he had 10bb, aren't we happily ripping it over his limp? He simply can't be dealt enough trapping hands for it not to be massively +EV.
when you get below a certain stack size and V hits anything on the flop, you will have zero fold equity on any semi bluffs.
let's say you have A6ss pre it's checked through and the flop comes 842sxx. your opponent has Q4 and leads 1.5BB, you call. with antes there's now 6BB in the pot
the turn comes a 3, 5, 7 or spade (quite decent odds of that happening when you peel). V leads again for 3BB or 1/2 pot. what's the minimum remaining stack that V would fold when you semi-bluff shove/commit?
If you started with 10BB and V has committed 5.5BB he/she is never folding. they sigh-gii.
If you started with 15BB and V has committed 5.5BB it's really borderline and V-dependent. someone calls the clock, then they sigh-gii or sigh-fold.
If you started with 20BB and V has committed 5.5BB you have some significant fold equity.
So imho it's a clear limp at 20BB and I'd probably stop mucking around and shove at 15BB.