The only site i know wich is releasing Turbos $3r/$8/$15 180s videos of live play format is PokerStategy but you need some status requirements in order to be able to replay them, but you can also try and search for them around the net

Banrkoll requirements is very player dependant, depends mainly on your...

*ROI
*Monthly volume
*Reload posibilities
*How prone to tilt are you

A 20%+ ROI HERO, with a 2.5k games a month, with some reload posibilities and not so much the tilt type of player would get by with a $600 BR to grind $2.50s 180s.
ROI is ultimately the variance killer, lower ROI higher variance and therefore biggers swings (both ups and down), with low volume and a low ROI will be more difficult (will take more days) for you to get out of a downer and with no reload posibilities and prone to tilt well you can get point

> ...lower ROI higher variance and therefore biggers swings (both ups and down),...

Ups?

Hello,

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Simple site with great videos and coaches specialized in 180's with massive profit in them.

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Hello all, im back at SNGs. Playing 1.5s 18/45man turbos and i just wonder what's the variance there? I ran pretty good at first, but last games im just getting murdered, no hand holds up, losing flips etc. What i want to know is, how big of a swing is possible to have? Im like 50bi from the top right now and seems little harsh. Last 50 games, only 4 cashes and no wins. I swear every time i get to money bubble, shorts start to suck out and i just get completely carddead, find no spots and due to ICM wont take any big risks, what usually happens is that im the bubbleboy.
Is there any way to check if i've been running bad or just getting owned? I feel like im just getting super unlucky and coolers everywhere, but yeah that's selective memory. I use HEM, is there any accurate EV thing? I checked bb/100 and ev bb/100, but that seems way off.

Anyway, here's the graph this month, low volume, because i've been playing for a week. I play in 2 computers, other1 has prolly like 250-300games and im breakeven. this is what it looks like in here.







Thanks in advance.

I did some calcs and graphs to see roughly how often downswings should occur for tournaments of different sized fields. you can find them all from the links on this page.
http://www.deucescracked.com/blogs/b...ability-Graphs

Also someone has produced a very nice online variance calculator for tournaments at:
http://pokerdope.com/new-simulator-f...r-tournaments/

First graph is my results on the $2.50 in buy ins, second is my results on the $8. Should I just run better or is there most definitely something wrong with my game in the $8s?

Your sample size in the 8s is close to meaningless.

I also have similar results. 18% roi at the $2.50's over 6,500 games.

Step up to $3rs and my graph is just consistently going downwards across 1200 games.

I don't feel like I'm making huge mistakes, I feel like I should be winning. Hoping it's a downswing but don't want to keep losing money. I feel like I'm running bad but I don't know.

Is it normal or is it swing at 45's turbo 1.5$? I know i got leaks but it doesnt look okey for me

He´s $2.50 sample size is already not big enough to determine anything, the $8s is just a couple of weeks of grind worth of a regular

Not nearly big enough sample to determien anything also, but going from a freezout (fo) turbo sng to a rebuy one demands some adjustments cuz of the deeper play you´re gonna be facing, there isnt as much push/fold game as in the fo formats, dont know hard to say without looking at one of your hand histories

EDIT: I need to learn how to read.
EDIT2: Sample is your lifetime or just this month? You are still up, 1k games is a solid sample, i think might be running bad or just leaking a bit. Grind a bit more and repost your graph. I mix 18/45mans and i had a 120~ games stretch, where i didn't won single sng, lost like 50bis or so.

It's not liftime. Only this month/. I'm not posting more because im on start of my career so everyday i learn something new so my game change a lot.

Btw how leaks can make smtng like this? Just asking.

Figured it's not lifetime.
I mean, you are probably improving day by day. How does your lifetime graph look, if it's going up and last 1k tournies are pretty much BE or so, then i wouldn't be concerned at all.
What you mean by that question? Leaks lead to losing play, regs take advantage, adjust etc.. simply you are getting owned when you are playing against them and winning while playing with others etc.. I wouldn't be that worried, BE stretches are so standard in those games.I have 312 hand sample with you, you're playing 13/10, 3b 3.5 steal 26. Not enough sample to make conclusions, but pretty tight.

I did some simulations on 180man variance and downswings - i did it for a 25% ROI and 16% ROI players - results can be found here http://www.pokerarena.cz/rubriky/str...i-25_6877.html and here http://www.pokerarena.cz/rubriky/str...i-16_6878.html

There is a bit of czech text, but most of the stuff is just numbers, so google translator will be enough to understand.

If anybody want results for different ROIs, just tell me your finish distribution (not just the ROI),payouts and buyin+rake (I am not playing these games so dont assume that I know how much rake do you pay in a 15usd 180man etc) and I will post results here. The main reason why I did it (besides people asking for it) is because simulators I have found online automatically assumes equal probability of finishing in every paid spot, which is not true for many players and variance is a bit larger in reality.

Sample is small and i guess most is from early stages where - thats true - i'm playing tight. PT4 shows 15/13. Its not best result but getting higher month by month.

Thanks for answering

Hi

These are my stats after 1300 2.5/180s


Can you see anything obviously bad? Like soemthing too low or too high?

Thanks

Welcome to 2+2.
They look fine to me but I would say that it is very difficult to improve by trying to alter your stats without knowing the reasons why you are doing it.
If I said your vpip pre ante was too low you might adjust by opening a little more in every position. If you are opening too much from early and too little from the Btn and just open a little more it will make things worse.
It's a much better way improve by thinking through and trying to answer some strategy posts or post your own H-H that have you confused.
General advice isn't that much use in poker as the answer to most poker spots or questions is "... it depends".

I see a lot of bad regs with perfect stats, you need a perfect shoving/calling range in these games, so playing decent stats does'nt mean a thing.
What is you're ROI over these sample?

GL!

Gotcha. And thanks for the variance graphs

15%

Are they still producing new videos? I'm thinking about starting a subscription but I wouldn't want to pay $100 for the ability to watch outdated videos from last year.

15% is decent keep working on pushing and calling ranges in turbo's and it will improve, a good player can make +25% on 2.50$ 180ers

Hey guys,

Active in the MP for some time now, investing at first and playing staked (selling at no mu / 85/15 investors profit) for over 10 packs now.

Since I don't consider myself as a pro/very good player (which reflects in the no mu and 85/15 investors profit I charge), I want to include a graph in the future to reflect my results in 180s. Playing $2.5 Regularly and sometimes have a go a try at a few $8.

I just subscribed for sharkscope (at last) and requested a graph to look for my overall results on those 180s. I am not familiar with interpreting graphs and knowing what is a significant sample to draw decent conclusions. So I would like to know what you guys think about the graph I requested.

* Are the filters correct?
* What does this graph teach you?
* Do I need a bigger sample to prove anything?
* Can I add more filters to create a more detailed insight
* Is this an accurate graph for investors to interpret?
* etc...


Any advice is VERY welcome, since I am pretty new to the detailed analytics behind poker.

Thanks in advance guys!




Matthias

I don't know much about sharkscope but it looks like a pitifully small sized sample.
From this 953 games I might guess that you are more likely to be a positive roi than neg - but I'd still very unsure about this.
I would say about 10k games starts to get you a reasonable confidence in your roi for 180s.
10k would give about a 90% CI of roughly +/- 10% on your roi.
So if you played 10k at 20% you could infer with some confidence an roi between 10 and 30.

You can use a tournament variance calculator to see how 'accurate' results are for different amount of games.
http://pokerdope.com/tournament-variance-calculator/