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Quads (2nd nuts) facing weird river bet Quads (2nd nuts) facing weird river bet

08-26-2023 , 05:24 PM
Level 2 of a £1k Main event.

Blinds 100/100 with 100 ante

Utg opens to 300 off 46k
Utg+1 flats off 16k
Utg+3 flats off 20k
HJ flats off 22k
Hero in CO has 7d7s flats off 20k
Button flats off 8k
BB flats off 28k

Flop 3c7c7h

BB checks
Utg bets 400 into 2.3k
Utg +1 calls
HJ calls
Hero in CO calls
Everyone else folds

Turn 8h
Board 3c7c7h8h
UTG bets 1.6k
HJ calls
Hero in CO calls

River 8c
Board 3c7c7h8h8c
Utg checks
HJ bets 4k into 8.7k
Hero ??

No reads etc what should Hero do here?
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08-27-2023 , 03:24 AM
As played on the river I would raise to 12k (or you could go all in). Yes UTG will likely fold with overpair but HJ will always call with 8x and some of the time with a nut flush. If HJ has 88 oh well.

On the turn I prefer raising than just calling. There are 2 flush draws and a bunch of straight draws so it will look like you hit your draw a lot of the time on the river. And anybody who has a draw will likely call even if it looks like you have 7x.
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08-27-2023 , 11:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Rick
As played on the river I would raise to 12k (or you could go all in). Yes UTG will likely fold with overpair but HJ will always call with 8x and some of the time with a nut flush. If HJ has 88 oh well.

On the turn I prefer raising than just calling. There are 2 flush draws and a bunch of straight draws so it will look like you hit your draw a lot of the time on the river. And anybody who has a draw will likely call even if it looks like you have 7x.
The main question is what 8x are we reasonably giving the HJ that he gets to the turn with?
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08-27-2023 , 06:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wehitityesssss
The main question is what 8x are we reasonably giving the HJ that he gets to the turn with?
This is a good point. For me it would be a flush draw or a BDFD with 2 overcards which HJ no longer can have. It could be BD straight draws like 86s or a BD draw and two overcards with 98s/T8s/J8s but I wouldn't be calling with those on the flop. 83s would be a possibility if he was BB. So maybe its just a call on the river the way you played the turn, because it could be 88 or a bluff or Ax and UTG may call as well with an overpair or even Ax. If HJ has 33 I doubt he would call a raise anyway.
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08-28-2023 , 01:14 PM
Raise turn. Double flush + paired board lets you rep a very wide range. Pray that UTG raises and then you can easily ship.

As played - raise! You cannot be even slightly concerned about quad over quad. You always go busto if that happens.

Last edited by Beachman42; 08-28-2023 at 01:20 PM.
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