Results: 143,000 pot
Final Board: 7 9 5
Hero mucked Q Q and won 147,000 (83,000 net)
SB mucked AT and lost (-64,000 net)
BB mucked QT and lost (-15,000 net)
Shove if I am shorter but wanted a chance to bail if I caught a bad flop like AAx, AKx, KKx, etc.
Don't shove, but your reasoning for not shoving is flawed. The reason we don't shove is that we want lesser hands to call or raise. Obv when we shove some lesser hands still call, but you get the point. Sure we can bail if we get multiple callers and bad flop and face lot of action.
Don't shove, but your reasoning for not shoving is flawed. The reason we don't shove is that we want lesser hands to call or raise. Obv when we shove some lesser hands still call, but you get the point. Sure we can bail if we get multiple callers and bad flop and face lot of action.
Fair enough, but when I raise pre I like to keep villains guessing. Recently I raised to 3x with JTs in a B&M tourney and doubled up - in level 1, no less - when the flop came down 987 rainbow. I bet 200, villain raised to 600, I raised to 1500, he made it 4k, I shoved.
@ropecore: minraising with antes gives you better odds to steal pre (also helps with potcontrol post). And people don't adjust their post-ante calling ranges nearly as much as they should.
i might have a flawed perspective on this(And let me know what you think), but....
as played...raise p/f to 10k-12k. Other than that its WP. Later on in tourneys you don't need to raise 3x. 2-2.25x is fine. So many people 2x it at this stage that 2.2-2.4 might weed out all the hands that you can.
however. With this many stacks from 15-20bb, and with you in EP...and with you with the mindset that you clearly are going to get this in preflop if it gets to that point unless there are like 5 all ins before hand....then....
This is one of those times I would probably just limp, shove. Chances are you'll get someone who has a hand worth raising, and you can catch them offguard. From my experience it is really hard to raise/fold with 15-18 bb unless you have a really good read.
If only callers pre-flop....shove on aceless/kingless flop and hope for the best. Worst case scenario you run into trips, but if someone calls with top pair, you're good, and if they call with 2p you still have several outs. If there are aces/kings/both, you are still in good shape with 17bb. You're in a situation where everyone is pretty much even. I don't really like limp raising on the reg, but if there is a situation for this I like this one...especially if you haven't seen it on your table yet.
Last edited by SuitedGarbage; 03-02-2015 at 01:33 AM.