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10-30-2016 , 02:52 PM

zanardi1

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,589

Villain is 25/15 13 3bet and 7 AF in 33 hands, other than that no further reads with lots of tables open.
WUG??
[converted_hand][hand_history]Party, $100 Buy-in (250/500 blinds, 75 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
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SB: 9,525 (19.1 bb)
BB: 41,335 (82.7 bb)
UTG+2: 26,715 (53.4 bb)
MP1: 28,898 (57.8 bb)
MP2: 26,322 (52.6 bb)
Hero (MP3): 42,946 (85.9 bb)
CO: 38,230 (76.5 bb)
BTN: 37,550 (75.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J

3 folds, Hero raises to 1,250, 3 folds, BB calls 750

Flop: (3,350) 3

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (3,350) 5

(2 players)
BB bets 6,750, Hero calls 6,750

River: (16,850) 2

(2 players)
BB bets 33,260 and is all-in, Hero???

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10-30-2016 , 04:09 PM

cznsnowy91

adept

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,046

Valuebet flop. I'd fold river without a special read and quite like his bet.

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10-30-2016 , 05:18 PM

user12345

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,737

Easy turn fold
Adjust flop check back range.
Quite a bunch of combo-draws in his turn overbet range but guess he can vb wider if you call every random pair w heart.

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10-31-2016 , 05:24 AM

zanardi1

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,589

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Originally Posted by user12345

Easy turn fold
Adjust flop check back range.
Quite a bunch of combo-draws in his turn overbet range but guess he can vb wider if you call every random pair w heart.

Disagree that turn is an easy fold, dont think a random on party starts constructing overbet ranges for turn and river to try to exploit me for value. All of his value range doesnt have much intention in overbetting turn after I checked flop and it also doesnt make much sense to 2x pot the river with a flush and even less with a str8. Think theres a lot of random clown factor in this hand, but maybe im being way too optimistic to want to hero river.
What do you mean to adjust my check back range?? Cbet this flop?

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10-31-2016 , 06:07 AM

furo

deviation of equilibrium

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29,639

Bet flop.
Fold turn vs overbet. Call std bet.
Fold river. Dont be a hero

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10-31-2016 , 05:23 PM

gregz41

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,609

Lame spot overall. Would call down vs standard bet sizes, but we can fold more to an overbet. We do have some better combos of hands in our range, I think.

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11-01-2016 , 12:00 AM

zanardi1

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,589

Thanks guys, villain had K7o.

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11-01-2016 , 12:07 AM

sirswish6

Iron Sharpens Iron

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 7,054

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Originally Posted by zanardi1

Thanks guys, villain had K7o.

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11-02-2016 , 04:16 AM

OutPlayU27

old hand

Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 1,688

Nice call and nice read, but if I'm V I'll play Qx the same if I know you're stubborn/you're an hero

Enviado desde mi ALE-L21 mediante Tapatalk

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11-02-2016 , 12:22 PM

#10

betgo

banned

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 28,590

Kind of hard to see what villain overbets the turn with when there are 2 flush draws out there and then overbets the river when one of the flush draw hits. Not saying it is a call, but the line doesn't make sense.

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11-02-2016 , 12:46 PM

#11

lolposting2016

veteran

Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 2,149

this is actually a pretty decent combo to bluff catch with
betting small otf is kinda nice
i like villains line, but hes doing it wrong. (terms of choosing hands to include in a range like this.)

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11-02-2016 , 02:22 PM

#12

user12345

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,737

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Originally Posted by lolposting2016

this is actually a pretty decent combo to bluff catch with
betting small otf is kinda nice
i like villains line, but hes doing it wrong. (terms of choosing hands to include in a range like this.)

How is it true ott?
With 1 clean out to improve vs 2p+?
And otr most would lack bluffs on this runout, doubt you will win chips vs field making such calldowns.

But yes this hand probably make smth like top 33% in our std check back range otf and we're supposed to call turn and offload 90bb on some runouts to avoid explotation

But +ev spot as played if he bluffs every random gutshot I guess.

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11-02-2016 , 02:43 PM

#13

betgo

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There are 2 2-flushes on the turn, probably not the best spot to make overbet bluffs with air.

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