Very sad situation for me.

I have a seat at the main event ,I am a poor player even pre GTO and have not put in any work. I'm trying to sell the seat as I mentioned in my other post.

However it seems like I cannot pass the seat off, so the question is what is an optimal strategy to make it passed the bubble

Working backwards the only way I make it that far is with a fair amount of luck. Also the more hands I play in the more I'm being outplayed (even more than the expected loss of ev by folding playable hands)

If what I need is a bit of luck and minimal hands -that means all-ins or at least few heavy hitting hands. Of course just playing tight and will not garner big hands.

So some sort of strategy: old school tight pre-flop, overbluffs (couple triple barrel even), and all-ins?

The problem is this sounds like the play of a casino 1-2 player, in my opinion some of the worst play of any players in any game

What says you guys?

PS I don't mean I'm cash poor ��
Pps in case the sarcasm failed to come through, I'm actually pretty excited to play if I can't get equity out of the seat

So easy- I would sell seat at a loss if you can if 10k loss bothers you. Become a member of TPE, runitonce etc, and just watch as many mtt hh videos as you can before main. I think selling seat is best idea but idk I feel if you can put 20-40 hrs in on hand review through a sub site- should help you.

Per what you said though, if you don’t have lots of live experience + study- you are probably dead money.

To be clear I have lost a couple months of my life here or there to poker but I still am not what you consider a decent player

I did try to sell it see Here but so far have not figured out a way.

What you are suggesting is get better at the game and brush up on theory which I am doing but I will not really become competitive in that short period of time.

I thought why not tailor a game so that luck plays a larger part in the winnings and losings? (something you might want to avoid traditionally) let me train to that style game etc.

ps Is there a way to build out a metagame into a program and seeing the total ev loss?
I want to maximizes variance and minimize ev loss

What is the nature of your comp/promo. Are you already registered or do you have to register and your comp is the method of payment?


If possible, you should consider registering before Day 2. Shorter stack size means less edge for the better players and more variance. Downside is that you are less likely to play with other bad players + the ME Day 1 is an experience that you are missing out on for the chance to increase your EV by a little bit.

Seems like max late registration and memorizing push/fold charts is the way to go, no?

Great point on the late entry.

However though the process is still unclear to me, it seems like somebody in charge of the Seven Star Experiences will be registering me in advance and she only gave me day 1 options. I could try pressing her I suppose.

Though that does give me an idea, I could artificially play that way. I could make some heavy 3/4 stack bets which would either steal me a bunch of chips and which case it didn't work, or eventually someone will bust me in which case I can just go to memorized short stack scenarios.

PS Interesting that there isn't more out there on how to train yourself as the overmatched player. I guess if you're going to the process of training you usually want to become decent...

Get Kill Phil.

you probably know about David Sklansky's "system" that was designed for someone with zero poker skill to play the main event back in the day (go in with KK+ AKs and fold everything else) - apparently there is an updated version https://www.sitandgoplanet.com/multi...tem_Part1.html
would be interesting to see if it works

Very interesting!

That was what I was exactly the kind of thing I was looking for.

You would think solver based players will call you a bit more then when this system was first invented though...

Also you would think as the day wore on that people would notice you are only going in with premium as it get hands and only call with kings+

I ended up booking a flight out of vegas at the end of the week so I am not sure if I am even rooting to stack up that much lol.

What will I do cancel my flight? I know how much people hate someone leaving with a bunch of chips just getting confiscated...

Plus if I am not going to stick around anyway may as well enjoy myself....but maybe it will be quite fun watching this weird all in strategy work or fail

The point of the strategy is that you steal just a little more than you need to so that you continually chip up, and that you will have some equity when called by everything, except the dreaded AA.

I thought the point was to take advantage of people not calling enough to all-ins because they are afraid of busting out. (should be more callers modern era)

Playing around with this I ran into a couple problems with the system.

1. If your table has a lot of pre flop raisers you are forced to fold almost all your hands and thus are not getting much back.

2. If the event is more turbo like you end up playing very little when deep stacked and then go all in with hands that are subpar later. (not a problem here)

3. If you don't get premium hands pre in the early going, same problem as above. That is to say not you are not going card dead just okay-ish or less hands when you are deep deep.

1) The range of hands that you are playing push/fold with is going to be so strong that it doesn't matter if your table has a bunch of aggro players raising a lot preflop. More money in the pot before you act just means that there is more in the middle to win when you jam.

2) Thats always the case when you get short stacked in tourneys.



BTW I do not recommend this gimmicky playstyle. It is going to be boring af to sit at a table all day and play allin or fold with JJ+ and AK (3% of hands), especially if you are serious about not pushing back your flight if you manage to win this way.


I would just say show up, play your best, and have fun. With having fun being your #1 priority.

If I were doing this from scratch, I would do a couple of things:

1. Max late reg as was suggested so you have the shallowest stack possible. That's still 75BB.
2. Focus on getting reasonable opening defending ranges down for that stack size. Understand what hands should open in certain positions. Understand what hands should call vs. 3-bet when you face action.

If you have good preflop construction, you're going to be better than a pretty decent percentage of the field already. It will also make postflop easier because you'll know what hands are in your range and what hands should be in your opponent's range.

I think this is the wrong idea. "Good ranges" require the player to play well post flop. Opening T8s from the cutoff is only going to be profitable if you play post flop well (or at least better than your opponent). Same with defending the blinds.

I'd instead focus on playing a much tighter range, opening bigger sizes, and look to make it a 1 street (preflop) or 2 street game. If you have 50BB, you can open to 5x, then jam 4x pot on the flop if you like it. That's going to be an exploitable strategy if the opponents learn it, but they won't come close to meeting a MDF if you threaten their stack.

OP, one thing you can definitely do is try to understand which boards will make for good stack off spots using the above strategy.

Sounds like a plan

I do agree about playing fewer streets, which is why I advocate max late-reg. You want to be as shallow as possible.

I will say that you can take the bottom chunk of hands off of normal pre-flop opening ranges and then 3x+ pre a lot, and still have the same philosophy you espouse above. But it's still important to know what your preflop ranges are going to be.

i am not even joking when i say:
if it is destiny and it is meant to be, it does not matter
good luck

So if the 10k matters to you then sell the seat even if you get 5k - if you're well off than just play it and have fun. Yeh you can late reg and play shallow stacks but this sounds like a once in a lifetime experience - just study as much as possible leading up to it and take it all in. If you're not good at all you're going to get torched by great players especially these days, so I don't think there's a lot of great options.