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04-18-2016 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleGoliath


yeah ****ing amazing, isn't it?

Why haven't we had any response or communication from PS Reps towards this issue?
Only looked at the FT payouts, what are the other issues with the payouts? To much spots payed? to little jumps? to small mincash? wrong placed jumps (26th instead of 27th) ?
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04-18-2016 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RaiseAgainst
Pretty sure I'm done with stars MTTs for now, maybe grind some 180s or something but until the payouts are reversed, what's the point? Can't even grind rebuys and my favourite hyper MTTs either.
Just gonna move to party with all the cool stuff they're doing in MTTs, lmk if payout ever gets reversed though.
i dont have a probleme with the new structure, i think the new ideea (payjump when 26 remaining and not 27) its a good one. I prefer the old structure with this new proposal (payjump when 26 remaining and not 27, its just an ex).
edit: I dont play hyper or rebuys mtts for the moment, i hope they will remove those stupid changes

Last edited by yo_yo; 04-18-2016 at 03:43 PM.
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04-18-2016 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by anuj22
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Nice one anuj22. Its very good for ps and all the players if somehow ps can make some adds with got actors/story line

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Originally Posted by DoGGz
How do you think I'm implying the USA is an important market for .com from the post I made?

The biggest tournament of the day and week starts when the most people will join the tournament. Turns out that's about 20:00 CET.
From u comment above that u wrote "Back when the USA was their most important market you had to stay up all night to play the SM."

People will play when the tourny starts so if its 18/19:00 CET i would be more happy and i bet that a lot of non working on weekends eu players would too. Its interesting idea that in weekedns only some big tournys can start some hours earlier and people form eu can play it when they are going to work in Monday and/or should go to sleep not to late on Saturday. I know a lot of people that would play most of the Sunday big tournys if they didnt start too late and ofc most of them are fish and play just for fun.

Starting time wont be a problem for anybody if PS make the same schedule but with different gtds and repeat it for 8 or 12h in a day. I am pretty sure that will happen one day.

Last edited by mecantplay; 04-18-2016 at 03:55 PM. Reason: adding line for 8/12h schedule
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04-18-2016 , 03:44 PM
Reverse changes, payouts, rake increases, rake in r&a, if you dont wanna kill the MTT´s...1r1a tournament are dying, anybody see the 22 1r1a from today...very sad..
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04-18-2016 , 04:08 PM
-1st and 2nd in PSKO should have nearly the same payout before the final bounty
-no rake on rebuys
-move back hyper changes, maybe 2 new blind level at the start but that's it
-bring back hyper psko 36man but with a reasonable rake and either a) 1,5k chips at the current blind structure b) 500 chips at the hyper sng structure
-let some more pros play the lower buy-ins for giving recreationals something to glare on (trickle down effect joke not intended)
-bring back SNE with a slightly less payout but also with less requirements.
-BOTP or something
-Leaderboard should pay, maybe make some special leaderboard for non holdem
-raise gtds back to 2013 niveau, no matter the new schedule, having a 3k instead of a 10k 2$R/3$R is just lame.
-2nd chance of the hots/bigs at 30-50% the GTD
-Bubble dash with bigger buy ins
-non- satellite rebuys under 1$
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04-18-2016 , 05:15 PM
Luke, is there a way to keep my PS client from changing to KO Tournament as greeting page? I want it back to the way it was, where I left when closed the poker client.
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04-18-2016 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rounder63
party had 2600, that had 137 runners in it... and you think theres no market for high stakes lol......
Because i am pretty sure they don't like people winning huge amounts and cashing out would be my guess.

Party feel like stars did 7/8 years ago where they are bending over backwards to pander to players need / increase market share. Stars have all the market share and are maximizing profits in the short term.

#Businessinnit
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04-18-2016 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mecantplay
Nice one anuj22. Its very good for ps and all the players if somehow ps can make some adds with got actors/story line
Thanks. Some GOT lines poker players can use:

"There are no winners. In life, the House wins"

"My backers would spit on me if I grinded 180 man rebuys and hypers"

"Everything is better with some PSKOs in the schedule"

"Summer is coming"

"Where are my FPPs?"

"The things I do for Rakeback"

"If you ever call me with Queen high, I'll have you strangled in your sleep"

"When you play the satellites, you win or you die"

Ok the last one is silly.
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04-18-2016 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke

Lastly, your Friday teaser:

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Apr 22 14:30 NL Omaha H/L $320 Friday NLO8, 10K Gtd
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Sweet, but...
shouldn't that be $530? Please tell us you didn't make all Omahas $320.
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04-18-2016 , 06:15 PM
Unofficial Sunday teaser:

Apr 24 17:00 NL Omaha H/L $215 Sunday NLO8 Hyper, 30K Gtd
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04-18-2016 , 06:32 PM
+1 to old payouts
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04-18-2016 , 09:17 PM
+2 to old payouts
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04-18-2016 , 09:35 PM
+1 to old payouts
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04-19-2016 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DoGGz
The Pokerstars Sunday Million is probably the most valuable online tournament property. It's success is very important. Stars will do whatever they can to make this tournament as good as it can be.
Given they disposed the highlightshow I'm not that sure anymore... people (i know, hobby players) have been watching & and loving these dreaming about how one day David Tuchman will comment on their genius calldown/bluff on their way to the title... I just don't understand it.

I still think they care about this tourny a lot, but I don't see how this should not make us throw in suggestions....

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And leading from that, Pokerstars has mountains of data. They would know better than you, or me, or anyone here what the correct starting time for this tournament is.
By that logic this thread is redundant. Obviously we have asymetric infromation/data distribution here, with stars haveing like 1000x more data than you/me/all of us have.

Yes, it's not that simple. Yes, there's a lot of things to consider.

I agree the SM is an extraodinary tournament, a valueable trademark... Especially considering that I'm unsure whether Stars actually has the data to know wheter or not it would be more successfull in a different timeslot if they haven't tried. You can compare to other tournaments like the WU of course, but again the SM is special and you might draw wrong conclusions cause there are simply factors that are not represented in the data available.

I do also understand that the SM is not something where stars will be making huge experiments, swiching timeslots and structures back and forth... Again, there's a lot of things to consider.

After all this thread is about discussion and offering personal opinions which is what I did.
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04-19-2016 , 12:43 AM
If your first post was this elegant and clear we'd both have saved a few minutes and some keystrokes.
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04-19-2016 , 12:57 AM
I don't think there s any chance the current time slot is maxEV for the milly. 2hours prior and it would clear 1.3 mil every week imo

Not that we ll find out
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04-19-2016 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by blakkman08
I don't think there s any chance the current time slot is maxEV for the milly. 2hours prior and it would clear 1.3 mil every week imo

Not that we ll find out
I think Stars might prefer it a bit later so more satellites can be played.
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04-19-2016 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by gollyheck
I think Stars might prefer it a bit later so more satellites can be played.
Lets see the new structure in SM. Maybe they will put 4-5 hours late reg (they are capable to do that). After a few weeks we can talk about the starting hour.
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04-19-2016 , 05:08 AM
+3.50 to old payouts

doesn't even make any sense, put some money back up top and make the mincashes reasonable again

literally none of the rec players I know like this
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04-19-2016 , 05:58 AM
yeah but the data, shut up losers
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04-19-2016 , 06:15 AM
As a Monday to Friday full time worker in the UK it is soul destroying to know that even if I bust say 100th in the MILLY I will still most likely be getting 2 hours sleep, if that, before getting up at 7am for work.

OBV anyone would be happy to sacrifice a nights sleep for an FT run in the milly but chances of this are pretty slim anyways and it hurts to bust so deep and still get no sleep.

I can prob vouch for a lot of EU players that an earlier Milly start even by 1-2 hours would mean EU rec/part time players would be more willing to stay up for milly and you would most likely see an increase in the field.

P.S. a structure upgrade would be nice too.
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04-19-2016 , 06:18 AM
New payouts are obviously terrible and nobody likes them. Flat payouts for PSKOs is okay, for freezouts its complete garbage and needs to be fixed.
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04-19-2016 , 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by blakkman08
I don't think there s any chance the current time slot is maxEV for the milly. 2hours prior and it would clear 1.3 mil every week imo

Not that we ll find out
+1

most people I know that play maybe ~5-10 sundays/year always skip the milly if they have to work on monday. 100% they'd reg if it finishes ~4AM.

also yeah, the payouts are obv terrible and make it harder to get motivated for a weekday grind.

Last edited by ONLYRAISEAA; 04-19-2016 at 06:35 AM.
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04-19-2016 , 06:31 AM
What do people think about making some Sunday majors as day 2's?
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04-19-2016 , 06:32 AM
SM is a 12 hours tourney, one hour earleyer its not that importnat, u will the still lose the night...
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